How much daycare is too much?

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Registered: 11-10-2004
How much daycare is too much?
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Thu, 03-31-2005 - 11:26am

Did anyone see the Wall Street Journal today? An article on the "Personal Journal" page talks about two studies that are coming out -- one being the already referenced NICHD study -- that shows 45+ hours a week of day can do harm to a child. What I found interesting about it is that the NICHD study says *anything* other than mom care is other care!! What happened to Dad?

The other article, in the same section, is an article about how parents are outsourcing everything now, including potty training! The article states that parents will send a child to a batting coach instead of just playing catch in the backyard. Another service, that costs $60 an hour (!), will help teach your child how to ride a bike!

I don't have an online subscription to the Journal, so I can't post the stories here. Does anyone else have one?

mom_writer

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Registered: 10-18-2003
Sat, 04-09-2005 - 4:20pm

What was snarky? Because I don't base decisions on the "Christian" value behind a product that has nothing to do with values?


<< i'm glad my monthly membership dues go to a place like the y over fluff that can't even answer your questions on membership, fees, programs over the phone. lol.>>


Nice implication that my gym doesn't answer questions, etc over the phone. I wouldn't choose ANY place with that poor level of customer service.


BTW, the Y here, because of it's faltering financial situation, has trouble keeping quality employees and they have in the past been unable to answer my questions over the phone ... despite their Christian values.


(btw, I have been working fairly closely with our Y director to connect him with some businesses and organizations in town who can help him get some partnerships started to increase their funding. I do that because the Y provides a great service to our lower-income families and I want to see that continue.)



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Registered: 07-20-2004
Sat, 04-09-2005 - 4:28pm
Well, as you so mockingly pointed out, while such hours are available where YOU live, they are not where I live. Shy of breaking into the gym, working out there at 4:30a or 11p is simply not possible. And, since I already rise at 4:30a, simply to allow for me to leave for work at 5:45a, and since 11p occurs only 5 and a half hours prior to that time, neither time would allow for me to remain employed. I'll grant you that YOU probably can't appreciate the importance of that fact, but I'm guessing your almost-never-home dh can.

Karen

"A pocketknife is like a melody;
sharp in some places,
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Sat, 04-09-2005 - 4:35pm

So what? Unless your argument is that you have belonged to every Y everywhere and therefore refute Hollie's claim, what happens to the Y's where you are is pointless and irrelevant to any discussion involving people who don't live where you are.

Our Y is exceedingly well funded, but they still see no reason to keep the Y's open to the hours you suggest, because their current hours of operation adequately address the needs of the community they serve.

Again, I point out that the irrelevant fact that some anonymous stranger on an internet board claiming to be from Houston and insisting that all Y's everywhere should be open from 4:30a to 11p, is no reason for the Y to change their hours. If *our* community is happy with it, who cares what *you*, as an outsider, think?

Karen

"A pocketknife is like a melody;
sharp in some places,
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Sat, 04-09-2005 - 4:37pm
Apparently, it's "snarky" to judge a gym by its commitment to fitness. Go figure.

Karen

"A pocketknife is like a melody;
sharp in some places,
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Registered: 08-29-2002
Sat, 04-09-2005 - 5:28pm

Oh my, did I hit a nerve? I already answered the question, but since you seem not to have understood the answer, I'll repeat in more detail: I don't remember specifically resenting my "dear dad". I remember deeply resenting his job. I think a price was paid, one that I have never been willing to pay myself. I'm nearing 40, I grew out of resenting anything about my parents long ago. I have, however, stuck to my childhood vow not to be a workaholic or be married to one....since I have such vivid memories of what it was like to have one as a parent while I was growing up.

Even if your children do not specifically resent their dad, they may not end up appreciating the whole "having mommy at home all day so it's ok dad works crazy hours" approach to life. You may think that you can make up for the lack of daddy time but you can't, and they may end up feeling very differently about the whole set-up than you expect. Just something to think about.

Laura

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Registered: 02-11-2005
Sat, 04-09-2005 - 5:34pm

*so what*?? lol!!

i guess i could share the same sentiment about your relevence to this very thread, especially considering its related to *dual* families and the quality or lack there of putting children in dc for any extended period of time.

but i won't.

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Registered: 02-11-2005
Sat, 04-09-2005 - 5:39pm
nah. you didn't pinch a nerve laura...i think kids grow up with all sorts of impressions, influences even prejudices because of what they witness and how they live. sorry that the animosity you feel in your nearly 40 years comes from a parent who worked crazy hours.
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Registered: 02-11-2005
Sat, 04-09-2005 - 5:51pm

what WAS snarky? call me a visual person savcal, but your post that included "i don't give a damn...." shows me that you not only care about the core values behind a club but are adamantly and mighty feisty against it hence the need for such four letter word.

mom3texas who imaged you folding your hands, one over another, and stamping your foot on the floor with that remark. lol.

p.s. about poor level of c/s? in the eye of the beholder, in the eye of the beholder. what that means to me is some ploy to draw you in, sit you down, push like its retail, commission only shopping or something....those *other* gyms are like that.

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Registered: 02-11-2005
Sat, 04-09-2005 - 5:56pm
stone me now.....clearly, your challenges are everything i have answered and nothing i can measure up to you on savcal...just get it over with cause this tug of war/debate with you is over.
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Registered: 08-29-2002
Sun, 04-10-2005 - 2:08am
Now I KNOW I hit a nerve.

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