How prevelant is this attitude?

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How prevelant is this attitude?
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Wed, 04-02-2003 - 11:29am
A post below peeked my interest, as I have run into this a few times IRL, and alot online. How prevelant is the thinking that SAHP's are just home because they expect someone else to support them. Or because they are too lazy to get a job or keep a job. I didn't really keep up on the story of that governor who had twins while in office, but if I remember, her husband was a SAHP and it was constantly rumored that he wasn't a SAHD, he just couldn't keep a job. That may be true, I don't know, but I found it interesting that it even came up.

In the past, I have run into alot of people (alot in my own disfunctional family) who view the SAHP (me at the time) as someone who either cannot or won't hold down a job. They (in a general sense) tend to overlook the SAHP as someone who is not worthwhile of their time and attention. I know that there are judgements made on both sides of this, and I think we hear alot of the SAHP's judgements here because it tends to ruffle feathers. But I'm wondering how many other people have run into the WOHP's judgements or even to hear from WOHPs here who have the same judgements because I really don't understand this way of thinking.

Okmrsmommy-36, CPmom to DD-16 and DS-14

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Fri, 04-04-2003 - 1:43pm
Yes, opinion may have meant "opt out" in a negative way but the statement itself is not negative.
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Fri, 04-04-2003 - 1:45pm
Please read - I said that with the EXCEPTION of the military. The Peace Corps do want someone to have a Liberal Arts degree prior to joining, and I believe I read that they show preference to people with money to fall back on so that there is a safety net on re-entry into the private sector.

Why wouldn't a community college be diverse? There were classes not offered at the University, there student body was more diverse - culturally, SES and in age. Both the University I attended and the Community College were in the same city.

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Fri, 04-04-2003 - 1:49pm
Depending on the community, community college could certainly be diverse. I said with the possible exception of community college.

If you consider having to have a college degree as a precondition to entering the Peace Corps as equivalent to "money buys broadened horizons," are you saying you have to have money to get a college degree? Lots of people get scholarships, work/study, loans, etc.

But regardless of the above, my point is that just hanging in your community, going to Wal-Mart once a week and gossiping at the preschool, doesn't broaden your horizons like higher education, travel or work abroad.

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Fri, 04-04-2003 - 1:56pm
That was huge assumption about the OP's life, based on the fact that she doesn't have a college degree and had her children young. I want to know how come it is "ok" to make those assumptions and propogate those stereotypes, but not others? Is it ok for me to say that I don't think living in a lily white neighborhood, going to the club once a week and haning out in the executive offices doesn't count as broadening ones horizons either?

SUS

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Fri, 04-04-2003 - 2:00pm
I wasn't assuming anything about the OP or any particular poster.

Yes, I think the scenario you outlined wouldn't evidence horizon-broadening either.

Again, what do YOU think would be horizon broadening?

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Fri, 04-04-2003 - 2:01pm
OOPS - that should be: Can I say that I don't think living in a lily white neighborhood or one that only houses one social economic group, going out to the club once a week, and gossiping in the eexcutive offices qualifies as broadening ones horizons?

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Fri, 04-04-2003 - 2:03pm
Yes, I understood what you meant and agreed.

What is horizon-broadening to you?

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Fri, 04-04-2003 - 2:04pm
Yes, I agree with petenyjoeys mom that all community colleges arent diverse and many people attend college using scholarships and financial aid. Diversity depends on the community. I came from a semi- suburban community and went to college in a rural community. Some of my friends and acquaintances came from rural communities. They told me that had never met a Jewish person before.

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Fri, 04-04-2003 - 2:07pm
But broadening horizons is more than diversity.

It's expanding one's own possibilities in life. That's why I don't think just going through your daily life necessarily does broaden anyone's horizons.

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Fri, 04-04-2003 - 2:40pm
Yes, you are right broadening your horizons means more than just being exposed to diversity in population. It is a diversity of experiences.

Another way to broaden one's horizons would be to do volunteer work with the homeless or the elderly. Traveling to new places also broadens one's horizons.

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