If you had Scandinavian bennies ...

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If you had Scandinavian bennies ...
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Mon, 04-19-2010 - 7:40am
I am curious. If you had Scandinavian social benefits – 1 year of paid parental leave, free health care and dental/ortho for the kids, no future college costs as well as subsidized daycare and after school care – would it affect your decision about SAH or WOH, either way?

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Mon, 04-19-2010 - 2:02pm
What happens if someone chooses to take 60 days off, followed by 320 half days, then gets pregnant again? Could they then take 60 days off, followed by another 320 half days? If someone had a kid every 18 months, could they feasibly spend 6 years working half days for 80% salary?
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Mon, 04-19-2010 - 2:09pm

Theoretically, I think so (with a caveat below). Practically speaking, I've never seen it happen. I think the birthrate is about 2 per female, if I recall correctly. It is more common for families to have two kids spaced about 2-3 years apart.

Something else plays a role here as well, though: the employer is only obliged to hold a job for 18 months, and does have the right to demand that the employee return to the job full time after that 18 months is up (assuming, of course, that the employee was working full time to begin with). "Full time" in Sweden, however, can include the possibility of working 80% if one has a child under the age of 8. In other words, 80% is considered full time for all legal purposes, but the employer can demand that the employee go back to 100% when the youngest child is 8.

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Mon, 04-19-2010 - 2:24pm
Can we move in with you for the next 4 years?
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Mon, 04-19-2010 - 2:40pm
Sure, but you'll have to work out your own visas...
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Mon, 04-19-2010 - 4:18pm

Well, I sah for 6 years *without* those benefits, but they sure would have been nice.;)

I think that if I had been able to take a year off with each child, I probably would have continued working (preferably pt) after the first year with both kids. I intended to sah only for the first year or so, but I began trying to get pg again when dd1 was a year old. I wanted to give my second baby the same time at home with me, and I couldn't start a new job and then quit a year later with the new baby. If the employer were holding my existing job and I could actually take a second year off and still go back to it, that would have been a big incentive to keep working, especially if I could have worked something less than ft.

In addition, if we had college costs completely covered, I probably would not now be considering going back full-time with a 4th grader and a 7th grader. I'd rather work pt.

I don't think the cost of childcare has factored into my decisions much either way--my desire to limit the timing and amount of childcare we've used has been more relevant.

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Mon, 04-19-2010 - 8:36pm
Probably not. Likely the only real change is that I would have a degree.

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Mon, 04-19-2010 - 8:54pm

I don't think it would have made a difference for me. I took about a year off with 2 kids, dh took a year off with the other one. We had 12 weeks paid leave and job preservation until 18 months.

We have good medical and dental benefits through our employer, though they are not as good as they once were.

I guess if I didn't plan to pay for college, I could be retire now. I still like my job, though.

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Registered: 10-22-2009
Tue, 04-20-2010 - 9:17am
With subsidized child care and free health care,
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Tue, 04-20-2010 - 9:47am
Can a person SAH and retire on their spouse's retirement benefits, or does each person have to WOH to fund their own retirement?
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Tue, 04-20-2010 - 9:54am
175/month?! Holy crap! That sounds like a vacation. We pay way more than that a week. :-( BAHHHHH.
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