If you had Scandinavian bennies ...

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If you had Scandinavian bennies ...
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Mon, 04-19-2010 - 7:40am
I am curious. If you had Scandinavian social benefits – 1 year of paid parental leave, free health care and dental/ortho for the kids, no future college costs as well as subsidized daycare and after school care – would it affect your decision about SAH or WOH, either way?

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Registered: 08-29-2002
Thu, 06-10-2010 - 12:22pm

Where I live in Sweden, there can be a little bit of waiting for a space but something almost always opens up nearby within a few months. In fact, one is not allowed apply for spaces more than 6 months before the space is required. It's easiest to get spaces in fall and spring, but still possible in the middle of the year if one is willing to go a bit further than walking distance from home. We currently have at least 3 different daycares within walking distance of our house, and had the same thing at our old house, with plenty more within short driving distance.

Daycares generally don't take in children below the age of 1, but after the kids turn 1 spaces are easily available and cost maximum of about 120 euro per month (and much less if one earns less). Subsequent children cost less than that, so we were paying about 180 euro per month for full time care for two kids at one point...

Germany is very tough for women who want to work and have kids. That's one of the reasons why I refused to move there for a job. Sweden is MUCH better for many reasons.

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Registered: 06-17-2004
Fri, 06-11-2010 - 1:59am

That sounds so much easier. There is only one close to where I live, in bus distance. Ok technically walking distance but 3kms with a toddler would take 2 days! There are 2 more across the river but that is the 'best' area of this city so of course the waiting list are super long. We are moving back to that area eventually, or maybe closer to DHs work. Looks like they are getting some contracts, so no Scandanvia for now...I would really like to get out of Germany. Like you said it is difficult to work as a woman and have a family. Plus I am the only woman in my dept that has a small child, my boss does too but at least 2-3 years older than mine and her DH stays home. It sucks, because I am only working to get my DD into daycare since there are no children around us. If I didn't work getting a place would be quite difficult.

The daycares here start around 6 months. I am not sure if private 'tagesmutters' start earlier but in my research that hasn't been the case. The one my DD will going to it seems all the kids are at least 1+ for my DDs group.

Yours cost so much less than mine. DH earns too much for me to get any discount, so ours is 243€ a month plus 2.55€ a day lunch cost. I could of choose a tagesmutter for 100€ less, but my impression wasn't good. Well it is at least better than the costs in the US...


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Fri, 06-11-2010 - 8:30am
Starting this fall, we will be paying close to $800/month for daycare for the two kids. Luckily, Samantha will be starting Kindergarten next fall (2011), so we'll only have that expense for one year.
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Fri, 06-11-2010 - 9:15am

<Starting this fall, we will be paying close to $800/month for daycare for the two kids. >


But it will be like getting a raise when they go to school!

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Fri, 06-11-2010 - 9:22am
$1800? Yikes!
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Registered: 06-17-2004
Mon, 06-14-2010 - 2:05am
paying money like that for daycare means I would be staying at home...or still working part time on the weekends. What is sad is that what I am paying for DD here for daycare, has been subject to comments about how expensive it is. :)


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Mon, 06-14-2010 - 12:14pm
That is one of the reasons I stayed home,
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Registered: 07-17-2007
Mon, 06-14-2010 - 7:22pm
We were paying $1350 per month for two kids three days a week ten + years ago. At that time, 3 days per week was 80% of the 5 day rate.
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Registered: 03-23-2009
Tue, 06-15-2010 - 1:19pm

When I WOH before my third was born, we paid almost $800 A WEEK for full time care.


We pay $1200 a month now for our three for very few hours now that I WAH.


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Registered: 01-08-2009
Tue, 06-15-2010 - 1:33pm
You must have had a nanny in an expensive place like Washington DC or something.

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