If you hadn't had kids...

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If you hadn't had kids...
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Thu, 05-20-2004 - 10:34pm
And your dh made enough $$ to support both of you comfortably, do you think you would be working?

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Wed, 05-26-2004 - 12:40pm


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Fair enough. That probably bothers most decent people, of any description.

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?! You'd be less bothered if we all needed armed guards then? I think you can find parts of the world where you can go to have both requirements met, actually.

The way YOU put this sounds very much like your problem is MORE with the Christians NOT being bothered and LESS with the Jewish people BEING bothered. Which is something destined to bother alot of people...of any description.

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Wed, 05-26-2004 - 12:41pm
Thank you, you saved my fingers.

I truly don't understand why we are having this conversation about this particular poster again given her lack of participation in this thread, until she was dragged into it.

SUS

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Wed, 05-26-2004 - 12:42pm
Because momofhk SAYs it is. Sheesh! Have you been throwing away those memos?

Choose your friends by their character and your socks by their color.  Choosing your socks by their character makes no sense and choosing your friends by their color is unthinkable.

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Wed, 05-26-2004 - 12:45pm
I also had PPD with DS1. It had taken me 13 months to conceive, and I had a very easy pregnancy for the most part. But after delivering, the PPD set in. I'll never forget sitting in my LR holding my baby and crying my eyes out saying to DH, "I have everything I've always wanted. A great husband, a healthy baby, my own home. So if I have all that, then *why* am I *SO DAMNED MISERABLE?!*"

To have people say "well what did you think it would be like," I can honestly say, I *didn't* think it would be like what my reality was. Thankfully, I was through the PPD within 6-8 months and we were able to discuss having DS2. And I think I got pregnant with him in 30 seconds flat. And I had non PPD with him, and it was an absolute joy caring for him.

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Wed, 05-26-2004 - 12:45pm

Choose your friends by their character and your socks by their color.  Choosing your socks by their character makes no sense and choosing your friends by their color is unthinkable.

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Wed, 05-26-2004 - 12:47pm
Good post.
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Wed, 05-26-2004 - 12:48pm
I'm glad you do know the post, because that way we can actually have an informed discussion about it. Hey, I freely admit, I am one of those people who do not know her or her situation well. I had no bone to pick with her prior to that, though, and indeed had generally enjoyed her posts, but was taken aback by what she describes as the "vitriol" of the post and what appeared to be a complete lack of connection between the acts she described (then and now) and her attributing them to Christianity, which I found deeply offensive. See my post above, which I hope explains it better. "I could tell her words did not convey her meaning sufficiently." Well, I certainly couldn't, just seeing what I see on board. (I would be delighted were I to gain a different perspective, BTW, until then, what I read is all I can know.)
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Wed, 05-26-2004 - 12:53pm

HA!

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Wed, 05-26-2004 - 12:59pm

Rubenstein does several things in this book that trouble me greatly: First, he negates the claims of Christ's divinity that are found in the Gospel writings (especially the Gospel of John) and in the epistles of Paul and others and turns the whole debate into a political issue;
1) I thoroughly disagree. He shows how those very texts were interpreted differently by different early church fathers, and that the final interpretation was decided upon in a political context.

Mondo

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Wed, 05-26-2004 - 12:59pm
That is precisely the kind of thing I'm talking about. I'm sure we can get a whole chorus of people saying, oh, I "know" her, I know that's not what she means, and that's all well and good and could very well be right - but it sure doesn't SOUND good.

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