Ladies...Enough Already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ladies...Enough Already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mon, 10-04-2004 - 2:10pm
Can we please voluntarily end this thread from grlimilakinskeeper, or whatever her screen name is...it's getting too personal, and not very productive.

Kat

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Mon, 10-11-2004 - 5:34pm
No, I'm doing everything in my power to keep them from being harmed by a smoker. He is free to see the girls all he wants provided he doesn't smoke around them. The only thing I'm trying to limit is his smoking around them. He will choose how that is accomplished.

How can you defend smoking around kids? NO parent should smoke around their kids.

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Mon, 10-11-2004 - 5:36pm
I didn't leave because I believed staying was the lesser of the evils. The tide has turned. Please don't pretend to tell me why I do things. You have no idea unless you're claiming ESP. You have no case to argue with me as to why I do something since I am the person deciding what to do. You're not even privy to my thought processes.
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Mon, 10-11-2004 - 5:37pm
LOL. No dear, try again. You don't have a clue.

FYI, I never dated guys my age. I had nothing in common with them. At 15 I could pass for 25 and would much rather have a conversation with a senior in college than a senior in high school. BTW, since when is a 31 yo a father figure??? That's funny.

Hmmm? What would you say about my mother? She also married a man 12 years her senior. Was she looking for a father figure?? Her parents never divorced and were madly in love until the day he died, which was AFTER she married my father. The first of two men considerably older than her.

Try again.


Edited 10/11/2004 5:40 pm ET ET by grimalkinskeeper

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Mon, 10-11-2004 - 5:53pm
<> i guess the better question is "how can you defend trying to push him out of their lives?" because NO MATTER how you twist it and turn it and bend it -- it still keeps coming back to YOU forcing this issue and CREATING just that situation.

should he smoke around the kids? no, HOWEVER, he shouldn't have custody taken away or limited because of it. Trust me, you will hear it from your dd's when they reach majority age because they will know that YOU forced it to this situation. Again, i wish you good luck with that. You're going to need it.

eileen

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Mon, 10-11-2004 - 6:22pm
NO, I want the court to prevent him from smoking around his kids.
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Mon, 10-11-2004 - 6:34pm
"Since when is a 31 year old a father figure?" A lot of 31 year olds are actually fathers. I was 7 when my Dad was 31. To a woman who is late 20's/early 30's herself, he's not. But to a much younger one (ummmm, 19?) then, yea, that rings big old "father figure" bells.
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Mon, 10-11-2004 - 6:37pm
Either smoking is wrong or it isn't. You can't have it both ways. It doesn't become ok because a parent does it.
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Mon, 10-11-2004 - 7:08pm
LOL. ever heard of the color GRAY? OR that everything is NOT black and white? do i really need to explain this to you? i might as well bang my head against a wall since others (and myself) have TRIED explaining this ad nauseum.

HEAR ME NOW! Smoking around kids is NOT right, but, but, but, but, but NEITHER is taking their relationship with their dad away. THAT is way, way, way, way, way worse than whether or not he smokes in their presence.

Gray. It's a cool color -- or lack thereof for those of us that are science folks.

eileen

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Mon, 10-11-2004 - 9:06pm
I prefer the "smokey gray" hue, myself......BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Mon, 10-11-2004 - 9:12pm
I highly doubt the judge will consider it in the best interest of the girls to have smoke blown in their faces. I can't believe you'd advocate smoking around children. That is wrong on so many levels.

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