Ladies...Enough Already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ladies...Enough Already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mon, 10-04-2004 - 2:10pm
Can we please voluntarily end this thread from grlimilakinskeeper, or whatever her screen name is...it's getting too personal, and not very productive.

Kat

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Fri, 10-15-2004 - 8:00am

Oh, please. She didn't agree with one single thing you said. Just because children have adults available to talk to doesn't mean they WILL talk to them about specific things.


It's pretty obvious you're terrified of sending your children to a psychologist because they might "plant" some dangerous memory in your children. Given you're so fond of claiming the only thing that matters is statistical odds of something happening, what are the stats to support your fears?

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Fri, 10-15-2004 - 8:29am
I'm not a doctor. Don't even pretend to be one. But I've read so many of your posts it's pretty easy to see that you have some MAJOR MAJOR issues that stem from your childhood. It's easy to tell yourself you're "normal" because you hold down a job, pay your taxes, and are a "good" mother to your daughters. But you are NOT normal and neither are your childhood experiences. You are one messed up woman. Trust me. And all of that CRAP is being handed on a lovely silver platter to your children.

Would it help any if I added "LOL" to my statements? I find no humor in your situation. It is so scary to me it makes my stomach hurt. I'm sorry I reentered this thread. I was ignoring it and doing well.

outside_the_box_mom

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Fri, 10-15-2004 - 8:56am
Right. But not everyone needs a doctor. If you are mentally ill you do need to see a doctor. You might ALSO need a counselor. But if you are not mentally ill you wouldn't need to see a medical doctor. Because a medical doctor treats brain disorders that are physical. A psychologist treats problems not illnesses. One does not need to be mentally ill to benefit from seeing a psychologist.

Jenna

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Fri, 10-15-2004 - 8:58am
Yes but a professional comes at this from a much more mature perspective than an elementary school aged girl. Children tend to think that THEY are the cause of everything. Her friends will identify with that feeling and possibly reinforce it.

And I think you minimize how difficult divorce is for kids.

Jenna

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Fri, 10-15-2004 - 9:02am
Physchiatrists CAN have phDs too. The point is, they CAN'T be psychiatrists without that other part. And the psychologists CAN be psychologists without that other part. Its not what they CAN have that matters, but what they MUST have.
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Fri, 10-15-2004 - 9:13am

A psychiatrist with a PhD in addition to an MD (you know, that 'other part' you knew they had to have), but that PhD would have to be in another field, not medicine.

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Fri, 10-15-2004 - 9:28am
Exactly. You just made my whole entire point. Nutritionists act after doctors have determined that their services will be useful.

I wonder who decides if a particular child "will be" predisposed to obesity? Are you suggesting we start sending children, randomly, on parental whim, to nutrionisits, so said children can began worrying about their diet, whether they need to or not, at as young an possible? Lets encourage preoccupation with eating habbits - that will certainly...fill up the hospitals with eating disorders eventually.

Worse yet - who decides that a child IS predisposed to obesity?. Sorry. If a parent thinks they have a child who is predisposed towards obesity, I certainly hope that parent hipity hops the child off to the DOCTORS office. If the doctor determines there is no underlying medical problem, this is just a child who needs a diet modification, or who needs that in addition to other medical action...fine.

The whole "take my kid to the service shop" just because really stinks. That IS thinking that CAUSES problems.

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Fri, 10-15-2004 - 9:40am
don't let that inflated ego blow your head so big that you can't fit through the door. trust me -- i agree with very little of anything you've had to say on this topic because you haven't made much sense and your positions are absolutely ridiculous.

but thanks for playing. NEXT...

eileen

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Fri, 10-15-2004 - 10:05am
People don't get crutches because they may have a problem walking. They get them because they do have a problem walking. Your example highlights the main problem with your philosophy.

Heck even my athletic daughter with the weak ankle was advised by the physio, not to use an ankle brace. Because using the brace he explained, under her circumstance would prevent her ankle from developping strenght properly as she grew. Regardless of what full grown adults with might need for their weak ankles. The podiatirst that saw my son who overpronates (just like Mom who has the orthodics) would not prescribe orthodics for him. Nope, apparently that little foot is still growing and developping and redirecting at this point will cause, rather than mitigate, problems. Regardless of what is appropriate for Mom. Good shoes apparently, are all he needs. Same kid has an under bite. Again. The orthodontist says, so far...braces, hey maybe. But not yet. We'll hinder not help by intevening at this point. Regardless of what is adoring the teeth of older kids with under bites. None of these people have suggested I bring the kids in on any kind of regular basis so they may scrutinize their physiques, try to ask the right question, poke the right spot, try to find that issue that just might be lurking, in case one is. They take a focused look at a specific issue which has some actual identifiable indications of existing, and then sends us off for a years at a time. Same with the doctors physicals. Once a year, the doctors have specific things they are particularily watching out for, given individual place in life...they either find an issue...or they don't. Its not like "see you next week...we'll poke at you some more...see if we can find just the right spot where a poke will illucidate that sneaky issue that just might be lurking...and here are some crutches in case you develop leg pain this week."

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Fri, 10-15-2004 - 11:27am
Well, paying is your choice, of course. Getting in might not be. The current triage system makes it VERY hard to see a psychiatrist unless you are in a very acute crisis situation, and since you care about your kids, I'm sure you wouldn't let them get that sick without seeking treatment for them.

If you cold-call, psychiatrists will usually insist on a referral before they will see you; there just are not that many of them these days, and they have full practices dealing with the people who need medication. You may feel that the system is set up backwards, and I don't necessarily disagree, but if you want help, you'll have to resign yourself to navigating the system as it exists, not as you wish it to be.

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