Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Tue, 04-18-2006 - 7:41am

The gifted child with a learning disability is a rare phenomenon. Unlike you perhaps (?), I also think the gifted child is a real rarity too. But the trend is for parents to demand gifted programs, and schools have responded.

Locally, the scrutiny and screening/testing to get accepted into the gifted program is so stringent that I don't see anyone with a learning disability getting accepted to the program. The incredible volume of coursework and homework assigned in the program would also discourage and unnecessarily frustrate the learning disabled. So, I think the gifted child with a learning disability would be an uncommon phenomenon in my area. But I admit I've had no need to look into it.

Also, I took a peak on the interent at the "twice exceptional" child you described. (Unlike you, I don't like to do my research on the internet because so much of what is on the net is unreliable.) The testing for the gifted child with LD to get into a gifted program is so subjective as to be silly. The articles I looked at said, if the child's IQ scores appear to be just average then the evaluator should perform an even more subjective analysis and review other areas of the child's personality, creativity, thoughts, dreams, etc. For instance, http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~nrcgt/news/spring98/sprng984.html. The articles I saw again generally hold out the idea that it is only the parent who notices that the troubled or acting-out child is gifted, that the LD is causing his behavioral problems and it's the parent's job (not the school's) to see that the child gets the gifted label. At some point, I think the parents have to accept that there is really nothing wrong with the traditional classroom combined with remedial services.

And some LDs do in fact prevent a child from excelling in a gifted program.




Edited 4/18/2006 7:42 am ET by tinderbox3
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Tue, 04-18-2006 - 8:13am
well said.....those who consider christmas not really what it is, or something that shouldn't be celebrated 12/25, should find not only their own little day for it but another *name* for it all together.

 

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Tue, 04-18-2006 - 10:41am
......i.e. Festivus? (obscure Seinfeld reference)

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Tue, 04-18-2006 - 10:59am
Festivus for the rest of us!
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Tue, 04-18-2006 - 11:03am

I have a gifted LD child. We don't make too much of either label. His LD is such that he has no sense of direction, wrote his letters and numbers backward until he was in fourth grade, sometimes engaged in complete mirror writing up until second grade, still has some difficulty with left and right, clockwise and counter-clockwise, and will likely never master north, south, east, west. Made for some difficulties learning math -- if you can't tell left from right, you are quite likely to screw up multiple digit addition and subtraction because you won't know which column to start on, stuff like that. His IQ tests someplace between 126 and 140 -- he's had multiple tests over the years. In fourth grade, the last time I tried to get an IEP for him, he was reading at the 9th grade level but only doing math at grade level despite tutoring and special attention paid for by us. The school district refused to offer us any help with the math because in order to qualify as a true learning disability, it has to preclude academic success, measured by being two grade levels behind true age. It was very frustrating for us, because no way were we going to let him get two grade levels below average and five grade levels below where we suspect that he could be.

We took him out of public schools and put him in private school where he is still performing above average in classes that focus on verbal skills and two grade levels ahead of the public schools in math. In effect, we wrote our own IEP with no help from the school district.

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Tue, 04-18-2006 - 11:27am

I am rather surprised by you here. Your grasp of logic is usually pretty good.

Saying that A and B are not mutually exclusive does not imply that they are mutually inclusive. You do not need the word "always" to qualify the statement.
Logically, the possibilities are such that:
You can be A and B
You can be not A and B
You can be A and not B
You can be not A and not B.

Saying that one individual from set A is both A and B does not imply that all individuals from set A are also members of set B.

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Tue, 04-18-2006 - 11:28am
No, it's against the law in my state for a child as young as 7 to be home alone for any length of time.

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Tue, 04-18-2006 - 11:30am
Your father and stepmother left you home alone with no supervision every school day when you were 7 years old?

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Registered: 09-08-2003
Tue, 04-18-2006 - 11:37am
In hk's defense (I can't believe I just typed that...)
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Tue, 04-18-2006 - 11:53am

From the time my father died (age 10), I was pretty much locked up in the house alone evenings (till 6 - when mom came home and we all left to do janitorial work) and summer weekdays - we didn't live in a great neighborhood.

((And I wonder why WAH is so angst ridden for me?? LOL))




Edited 4/18/2006 11:55 am ET by mondomom

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