Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Wed, 04-19-2006 - 4:12pm

Are you serious? Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ. That is why it is celebrated. Easter is when Christ rose to heaven. I celebrate these holidays b/c i believe in them.

People who celebrate Christmas but do not believe in Christ is mocking or making light of the holiday. It is bad enough that Christmas is sooo commercialized but to have people who do not beleive in Christ celebrating it is insulting.

Hey, since I love the way a Menorah looks I should just clebrate Hannaukah! Heck, why not celebrate all the holidays b/c I think they are neat.

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Wed, 04-19-2006 - 4:15pm
Yes, my girls beleive in Santa Claus. However, there is no doubt in their mind why we celebrate Christmas. They will not even tell you CHristmas is a time to get presents. They will tell you the whole story on the birth of Christ, that it is his birthday and that they make him presents every year and bake a cake.
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Wed, 04-19-2006 - 4:21pm
Are you willing to accept the reasoning and evidence adduced by the authors of each of the articles that you cite, or are you just pulling sentences that support what you believe to be the case?
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Wed, 04-19-2006 - 4:21pm
I would just never celebrate a religous holiday in a non-secular way when I do not beleive in the religion. IMO, it is insulting.
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Wed, 04-19-2006 - 4:32pm

I find it interesting that it's Christmas and Easter that people tend to celebrate in a non-religious way but no one is talking about how they celebrate Passover, Hanukkah, or Kwanzaa in a non-religious way as they also occur around the same times as Christmas and/or Easter and are also listed on the calendar.

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Wed, 04-19-2006 - 4:40pm

"Easter" and "Christmas" are national public holidays regardless of your religion. It is both convenient as well as traditional for us to hold our celebrations on those days. Exactly what is it insulting to you if I give my kids chocolate bunnies or have a turkey dinner with gifts on those named days?

Carrie

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Wed, 04-19-2006 - 4:44pm

If you moved to a place where they weren't national holidays, would you still celebrate them or start celebrating the ones that are national holidays?


Edited to add, actually they aren't

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Wed, 04-19-2006 - 4:46pm
C'mon, Lois, admit you goofed! Not even "the person of very lowest ability" deserves to be referred to that way, not even in jest. Some of us are kinda touchy on that point ;-)
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Wed, 04-19-2006 - 4:52pm

I haven't weighed in on this debate too much because I think both sides are kind of flawed. It is the case that the date of the Christian celebration of the Incarnation -- Christmas -- was most likely chosen to coincide with dates the Romans were already celebrating religious and civic holidays. So in a sense, Christmas is and always has been an overlay over a civic and non-Christian religious celebration. And lots of pagan customs have been brought into the cultural celebration of Christmas. So Christmas, from the outset of the Christian celebration, has been a syncretistic holiday. So I have no problem with people celebrating the cultural aspects of Christmas --trees, Santas, Rudolph, turkey, whatever. Have at it. Just don't pretend the day doesn't have, or isn't one of the holiest days of the year for a significant chunk of the population, and don't pretend that whatever it is that you do is the equivalent of what Christians are doing.

Easter is more problematic, because even though the name itself comes from an Anglo-Saxon goddess, the resurrection of Christ is THE central event of the Christian faith and the main reason Christians celebrate Easter. We are, as my pastor continually tells us, "Easter people all year long." It is also the case that Easter tends to fall near the spring solstice, but Easter celebrations are not and never have been a randomly-chosen date to overlay onto existing customs. And the Christian celebration has little to do with baskets and bunnies, imo.

In our home, we tend to completely downplay the cultural aspects of the holidays in favor of marking the religious aspects of the day.

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Wed, 04-19-2006 - 4:55pm

Both Christmas and Easter have secular (or pagan) trappings that get heavily marketed to the exclusion of the religious core. There are lots of things to buy, from trees and gifts to candy and porcelain bunnies, that make it possible to celebrate Christmas and Easter without ever acknowledging the religious core. But this isn't the case with Passover (I don't think Kwanzaa is actually religious). It is lightly marketed and the items sold are all for Sedars, which can't be held without being religious.

But Hanukka...as any Israeli will tell you, it actually IS celebrated in a barely religious way by so many American Jews. It was never that religious to begin with. More historical, really. It celebrates a miracle, but a minor one. And if it didn't stand in the calender shadow of Christmas, it would be about as important as Purim (as what??? exactly). So you could say plenty of Jewish people (myself included) celebrate it less as a religious holiday and more as a way to not be left out of partying as the majority celebrates Christmas.

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