Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 12:43pm
That's OK as long as you realize that only kids with motivated and fairly well off parents have any chance of reaching their potential. I'd be a lot happier if school districts were honest about what they are and are not trying to do. Most ARE aspiring to provide a baseline education. I actually think that our school district, given what they are up against, does a pretty good job delivering baseline services. I want more than "baseline" for my kids, and luckily, we can afford it. I think there's a really, really, really big gap between baseline and excellent, and most school districts, in my experience at least, talk a lot about "excellence." In some areas, for some populations, my school district actually approaches excellence. But for many others, including say, primary age gifted populations, they do not.
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 12:43pm
I think so. I'll try to email you next week and if I don't find the address I'll email you through your profile. I'm really hoping this all works out!
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 12:47pm
I have no idea where he'll be in his reading level or interests in junior high/high school. He's reading at that level (heading into college level) now. I don't actually expect him to be bored by reading easy texts at that age because he still enjoys reading very easy books now so I expect he'll enjoy the discussion. I hadn't ever even thought about the issue of how long it takes someone to read something, I wasn't aware that this was a factor in early or late reading.
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 12:56pm

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The way education is currently funded, there's no real alternative.

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 12:59pm
this is one of the things that i find interesting. there is a kindergarten cirriculum, then you have parents out there who want to make sure thier child has mastered that before they get there, and then complain that kindergarten is not approriate for their child.
they seem to think that all that happens at school are academic subjects, there is so much more to school, like alot of the things you mentioned. my husbands grandson can read a bit more than most of the kids in his kindergarten class, but unlike all the other kids in his class he can not tie his shoes or get his winter outside clothes on by himself.
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 12:59pm

The year my child was in first grade, they did not group for ability. His teacher was given a wide range of readers, including a handful of the very lowest readers coming into first grade. The teacher would not allow him to work on the language arts curriculum independently although I offered to bring the workbook home and have ds complete the year's work at home in the first few weeks of school. (It was a brand new reading program curriculum and she was learning it herself that year. She felt very strongly that she was accountable to have every child in the class complete the entire curriculum.) After awhile, the teacher was open to having ds go to a third or fourth grade classroom for language arts instruction, but we couldn't find a third or fourth grade teacher willing to take him. What ended up happening is that he found a wonderful mentor in the basic skills/reading specialist teacher, who formed a book club with him and met him twice a week, feeding him books appropriate to his level. (She happened to have a highly gifted ds and could really relate to my ds.) That and a lot of "family field trip" days and my ds's very social nature made first grade tolerable, barely. I do think he lost some of his love of learning that year, due to the language arts fiasco. Had I not three small children at home (one an infant,) I would have partially homeschooled that year.

One difference we've encountered since then is that the basic skills teacher who went out of her way to accomodate my ds retired the following year. When my dd went to first grade, there was no one to mentor her in reading. The new basics skills teacher has made it very clear that her efforts are meant for the children who need to catch up, not the kids who could use further challenge. Losting a resource like that was pretty painful to me.

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 1:01pm

"That's OK as long as you realize that only kids with motivated and fairly well off parents have any chance of reaching their potential. I'd be a lot happier if school districts were honest about what they are and are not trying to do."


I do realize it and I agree that schools should somehow find an inspiring mission statement that's closer to reality.

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 1:03pm
How would using a different funding mechanism allow more resources to

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 1:04pm
This has been my experience as well. Although early reading can be a sign of giftedness, often it's not. Most of the kids I've seen so far who come to K reading did so because they had parents who taught them (drilled them, sorry to say, in many cases). My older dd is now in third grade, and she's the top reader in her class, even though she came to K not reading a word. The two kids who came to K with her already reading chapter books are still good readers, but they're not any further ahead of their peers than other good readers who started reading later. I'm seeing the same thing with my younger dd.
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 1:10pm

Thank you for sharing a little of your family's experience (I will keep in mind that you also mean the broader gifted population when you post on this topic).

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