Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 2:10pm
That's just hideous. I can see why 1st grade was such a nightmare for your ds. I've complained a lot about the Swedish system, which really emphasizes group activities and strongly disapproves of any kind of "pull-out" solution, but the fact is they have managed to keep ds enganged in the classroom and with the other students for several years now. Somehow, they do try to find ways to accomodate his needs, even if it isn't always ideal (English this year comes to mind, but the teacher is trying to get more creative now).
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 2:11pm
while i dont know your child, and it sounds like he is even more gifted than my child that was labeled as such, was there nothing new he learned in 1st grade. i spend alot of time in our school and the volume of subjects they cover is impressive. and while my oldest was always ahead of her classmates she was able to always find a way to challenge herself, to date her love of learning has not been dampened by having to wait for classmates to catch up on certain things. it has gotten easier now that she is in high school and can fill her extra slots with advanced classes.
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 2:15pm

I think choosing a school for your first child is particularly difficult. I've learned a lot from my first child's experience that has helped me with the second one's education. We started out at our neighborhood school, and after two years there, I could see it wasn't the place for us, even though I had done quite a bit of research beforehand and thought it had everything we wanted. We ended up switching schools when dd1 was in first grade, and we're very happy with our school. Luckily, our district has open enrollment. I'm not sure what we would have done if switching schools hadn't been an option.

I haven't read much of what tinderbox or pnj have to say about education, but I agree that one person's "excellent" school isn't the same as the next person's.

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 2:17pm
Again, I suspect this is partially teacher-dependent (how they handle things emotionally and intellectually with a child) and child-temperment dependent. Ds is now in 4th grade, there isn't much he's actually learned at school in all the years he's been there. BUT, he is very happy at school, gets on well with his classmates and apparently participates happily in class and group activities. We do spend a lot of time at home on enrichment activities, most driven by ds's desire to learn more.
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 2:18pm

Oh, I don't want to get into it any further; I've shared way more than I've wanted to. I know it sounds impossible, but it happened. The accomodations just didn't include keeping him from having to sit through the basic language arts instruction.

If you are really curious, I'll expound in an e-mail.

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 2:25pm
im sure some of it has to do with the teachers. when i think of the things my children have learned in school it goes beyond just the academic things. they have learned different ways of looking at things, they have learned to work in groups, they have learned about things i would have never thought to teach them because they are just not things i am interested in or know about. school has opened up a whole new world for them.
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 2:37pm

Oh, you chose this school, it wasn't your neighborhood public school? Did you research the school's overall excellence, or excellence including for gifted students?

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 2:40pm
I'll send you that e-mail about our county's stuff and you can reply with the info if you'd like.

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 2:41pm

No, when my oldest gets bored, he reads. And reads. Last year he figured out how to attend school, appear engaged in lessons, and read a 200+ page novel during the school day. It has taken almost the entire school year this year to break him of that habit!

Please, I don't want to think about how tough first grade is. I have one going into first next year and another going into first the following year! I'm only allowing myself to think positive thoughts.

The thing with boys who act out because of boredom, as frustrating as it is, it does have a benefit as you almost always know when your boys aren't being challenged. They let you know. Having a compliant, rule-following girl who never acts out might actually be worse. Because no one knows that she is underchallenged. (Not that it is a contest and we need to compete for who has it worse...)

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 2:47pm

Both of my boys have done that, lol.

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