Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Fri, 04-21-2006 - 3:39pm

"Did you mean to repeat yourself?"

Yes.

Did you mean to say that my statement:

ME: And at times, common definitions are hindrances which make communication impossible.

was restating the obvious wrt your statement?

YOU: Common definitions are cultural and social conventions that allow communication.

How so?

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 04-21-2006 - 3:41pm

I don't know. At this point in the year, most of his K classmates can read, many quite well. I've seen the work they do in 1st grade, and I don't see how he will be bored. Obviously, some kids will still be working on reading and some will be reading at advanced levels. But all of them, one way or another at whatever level they can do it, will be researching and writing reports on Australian animals and other similar projects. Perhaps being in a better school district filled with kids of very highly educated parents taints my experience, but I just don't see the plight of smart kids in public education.

In contrast, as the parent of an autistic child, I've seen huge differences in the services provided by school districts. We are very lucky that our district is so good, but I've heard horror stories from friends in other districts. And, in contrast to how easily a smart kid's learning can be supplemented by a motivated parent (or such a child could be sent to private school if that seems better), there is virtually nothing available privately for special needs kids.

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Fri, 04-21-2006 - 3:41pm

"Whell. Speaking strictly subjectively, I don't much like being called a liar and having my "integrity, honesty, and character" called into question."

This sort of thing is very easily avoided Sabina.

All you have to do is refrain from making statements that are inconsistent with your claims.

As well as making claims that you can't support (see below wrt your def. of homeschooling).

"Now homeschooling, that's one of those rare words with an objectively definite meaning,"

Like your own objective meaning that homeschooling = no criteria / parenting / family day care?

"at least when you're desperately trying to save face in a debate."

I haven't stated that my definition of homeschooling = an objectively definite meaning.

But by all means, Sabina go ahead and cite.

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Fri, 04-21-2006 - 3:41pm

"I'm thinking gender is one of those subjective and culturally constructed categories when it comes to puppets."

Why do you think gender is subjective?

Why do you think that the teletubbies are puppets?

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 3:43pm
It is a fact that I believe these things to be true.
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 3:44pm

"I would like an example of when common definitions make communication impossible."

Certainly.

Again from post 782:

"Clearly not everyone agrees on the definition of every "common" term. Hence the reason why semantics and interpretation are often an issue, particularly wrt debate. As I have stated on many ocassions, IMHO, there is a certain degree of subjectivity and/or personal interpretation involved here, which often tends to be the underlying source of the more heated debates.

Does everyone accept the same defintion wrt the following terms/concepts/ideas:

God, love, evil, sin, truth, spirituality, art, beauty, murder, morals, morality, immorality, marriage, evolution, expensive, funny, appropriate, inappropriate, tasteful, distasteful, conformity, nonconformity, etc, etc, etc?

Likewise does everyone accept the definitions/distinctions/differences between the following:

daycare vs. school, daycare vs. preschool, toddlers vs. preschool aged children, dcp's vs. teachers, breastfeeding vs. ebm via bottle feeding, full day preschool vs. full time preschool, cribs vs. cages, othercare vs. parental and extended family care, homeschooling vs. parenting, SAHM, WOHM, PTWOHM, private school vs. paraochial school, etc, etc, etc?

For instance, as a Pantheist/Evolutionist, I most certainly believe in God and/or a Higher Power. However, I am not religious, nor even a Christian. Therefore, most people would inaccurately say/claim that I don't really believe in God, seeing as I don't believe in a religious, "Christian" God.

However, I would wholeheartedly agree. As is my God given right LOL :)"

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 3:45pm

"There is absolutely no other way to communicate."

Why are you of the opinion that common definitions = objectively true definitions?

Why are you of the opinion that common definitions simply aren't up for debate?

Could you please elaborate?

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Fri, 04-21-2006 - 3:45pm

"By the way, as to the homeschooling issue -- the appropriate term for what you do is "afterschooling."

So is homeschooling on the 190 days when my dd isn't in school afterschooling, too?

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 3:45pm

"I don't know how you evaluate which is more important to society. To make sure all people have at least basic skills to function does seem pretty important. But to ignore the potential of the people who could contribute greatly to our lives (through science, technology, arts and so forth) and solve the world's future problems does seems a bit shortsighted."

Shortsighted indeed suzy.

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Registered: 05-01-2003
Fri, 04-21-2006 - 3:45pm
Oh, I believe it can occur; but as you agreed, it is rare. Your son sounds like a rare child to me. Put it this way; the amount of people that I hear calling their children gifted is far more than actually are. The average child, IMO, if drilled by their parents could be reading at an early age, earlier than is formally taught in school.

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