Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 7:11pm
Sorry. At my age, there's only so much grey matter left to fill, and I am not wasting any space up there on teletubby expertise.
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 7:16pm
Nobody here is defending the position that commonly accepted definitions reflect anything other than cultural consensus. Certainly definitions CAN be debated. However, you've yet to interest anyone in debating definitions with you. Are you here to talk to yourself?
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 7:20pm
There are no "objectively definite meanings", yet words do have commonly accepted meanings. There's no point in debating them. I'm not much interested in the private meanings of that dissenting one percent.
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Fri, 04-21-2006 - 9:48pm

i think you so hit the nail on the head with this......

>>overall mission and most important goal IMO should be providing a baseline education, not educating each child to his or her full potential<<

..school is *no* guarantee of potential nor should it be responsible for that. when all is said and done,it's up to each individual's hard work, willingness and desire to succeed. school is simply an outlet/tool to help *you* get there.

p.s. an ot sparked by what nemon shared about richest school districts.....out of curiosity, is there a richest or best school district in america?




Edited 4/21/2006 9:52 pm ET by egd3blessed

 

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Sat, 04-22-2006 - 2:36pm
Then travs_mom's original question remains - should we get excited about an early reader? If it is not necessarily an indication of advanced reading at a later date or even intelligence in general, then other than a classroom challenge, is there a any reason for kids like this to be "exceptional".
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Sat, 04-22-2006 - 2:37pm
Aren't elite traveling sports teams for kids largely for entertainment purposes? Or is there a real intention and/or expectation that these kids will go on to be professional athletes?
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Sat, 04-22-2006 - 3:08pm
The only part of travs_mom's post that I was addressing was the part about everyone eventually ending up reading at the same level. I never at any time suggested or thought that one should "get excited about an early reader". I have no idea whether early reading is a sign of anything though I am open to any research on the subject. I most emphatically do not agree that adults all end up at the same level of literacy, or even remotely in the same ballpark, and that was the entire point of my posts on the subject.
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Sat, 04-22-2006 - 4:25pm

Eh, like I said, I was overgeneralizing. And obviously, given the context, I wasn't comparing the entire world's population -- just average educated people vs. "gifted" people.

Put it this way: I've worked with a ton of attorneys. Some of them have been brilliant, some average, and some so stupid you wouldn't believe it. But none of them have had any problem reading what is written. What differentiates them is their ability to think logically and write well (and by that I mean argue well, not just form proper sentences). The ability to read is sort of a baseline ability.

So anyway, I think that a parent saying "Oh my gosh, my child can read, he's obviously gifted" (which parents of early readers often seem to want to do) is about as stupid as a parent saying "Oh my gosh, my child can walk, he will obviously be a great athlete."

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Sat, 04-22-2006 - 4:35pm
But that's why I posted the link to the research and gave some of the statistics. Even among an "average" educated population, the level of literacy varies wildly. Check out the link sometime, I found the information very eye-opening. I think Okie said it best, being able to sound out the words is not the same as reading with full comprehension. There are likely huge differences between the lawyers you've known with regard to comprehension abilities.
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Sat, 04-22-2006 - 4:37pm
I think a lot of these parents are hopeful that their child will become the next "fill in favorite athlete of all time" but the reality is that it is quite rare. My gosh, I've seen so many parents around here have their kids so overbooked in all these travelling teams it is not even funny. IME what I've seen is parents grooming their kids in basketball and soccer so that they can play Varisity at a freshman level. If they play varisity at a freshman level (high school) then chances are they can play in college. I think some parents are looking for help in college tuition; some think their kids are above the rest in terms of athletic ability and still others are naturally good and the town teams don't cut it for them. Some parents are trying their own dreams as well.

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