Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

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Sun, 04-23-2006 - 1:36am

Really, this is getting absurd. I have said absolutely nothing about only gifted people reaching the highest level of literacy. I have said that adults reach different levels of literacy. Again, check out the link. Even some people with post-graduate degrees ended up in the "under basic" category and plenty ended up in the "basic" and "intermediate" categories. In other words, there are variations in ability even with people who have achieved a high level of education.

If you write a very complex letter to someone, that person may or may not be able to comprehend the entire meaning and all of the nuances of the letter regardless of his/her probable ability to figure out the words you wrote. Adults simple do NOT read and, even more critically, *comprehend* at the same level. The basic or intermediate level is probably more than sufficient for coping with everyday life, but it is simply absurd to continue to argue that "adults read at the same level" when that is patently not the case.

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Sun, 04-23-2006 - 1:43am
I guess for me personally, I don't really see the point of making a big deal about an early reader or early anything. I think it's probably only important within the context of school issues (proper assesment of a child's abilities so that he/she can be placed correctly and given appropriate material). But then, I don't really see the point regardless of whether early reading is a sign of giftedness or not. In other words, even if every early reader in the world was clearly gifted (not something I believe, btw), I'd still not see the point in making a big deal about it.....as long as the school is able to educated those children reasonably appropriately.
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Sun, 04-23-2006 - 1:49am

I forgot to address this....

"So anyway, I think that a parent saying "Oh my gosh, my child can read, he's obviously gifted" (which parents of early readers often seem to want to do) is about as stupid as a parent saying "Oh my gosh, my child can walk, he will obviously be a great athlete.""

I absolutely agree with this.

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Sun, 04-23-2006 - 4:54am
On the other hand, tho, it's interesting how her responses kind of prove your point.

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Sun, 04-23-2006 - 8:30am
I was just on the baseball field yesterday. My son is in 8th grade. I was talking with the parents of a boy in my son's class who in K was reading up a storm. Everyone at that time talked about how bright D was. My son started reading in 1st grade. Guess who now gets the better grades? Interesting.
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Sun, 04-23-2006 - 9:14am
Honestly, I don't think it's any more interesting that someone being an early reader. There are a myriad reasons for a child to be doing better or worse in school, many of which have absolutely nothing to do with the intelligence or giftedness of the child in question.
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Sun, 04-23-2006 - 9:32am

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Maybe so, but it wouldn't have to be. Plenty of federal programs have been accessible and dependable in the past. Just not lately. NCLB is political posturing much more than a responsible pro-education program.

Of course the states have to abide by IDEA. But the states have no real responsibility to do so. That responsibility falls to local school districts. The states are mainly responsible for state-run institutions, such as colleges, universities, and a handful of special schools.

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Sun, 04-23-2006 - 10:37am
Precisely.
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Sun, 04-23-2006 - 10:49am

>There are a myriad reasons for a child to be doing better or worse in school, many of which have absolutely nothing to do with the intelligence or giftedness of the child in question.<

IME, the most telling reason for a child to be doing better or worse in school is the correlations between how the school/teacher presents the materials and how a particular student learns. Add in the personalities of the particular teacher, student and age of student. All these, IME, are more important than the intelligence or giftedness of the child.

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Sun, 04-23-2006 - 10:51am
So why did you say you found in interesting? I have to admit, I sometimes have the feeling that for every parent out there convinced that his/her early reading child is gifted, there are 10 parents who feel a definite sense of schadenfreude if that same child struggles in school later on.

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