Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Registered: 11-03-2005
Thu, 03-23-2006 - 2:32pm

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Typical where? In Oklahoma (that is where you live isn't it?). Aha. See, that's where you are most definitely wrong.

http://www.sde.state.ok.us/home/news/Kfullday.htm -- "60.3% of Oklahoma Kindergarten students attending full-day programs in public schools" -- also 14,449 chldren in OK are in full-day public pre-K.

And before you protest, theose public pre-k programs meet your definition of full-time, as they are full-day for 180 days a year. "The schools and classes shall be conducted for a total of no fewer than one hundred eighty (180) days during the academic year." -- http://sde.state.ok.us/home/defaultie.html

Also, you state your district has 13 elementary schools? Are you in Edmond? If so, then you'd be correct if you meant typical in your district. But, as an almost-life-long oklahoman, I can assure you that Edmond is not the typical Oklahoma school district.

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Thu, 03-23-2006 - 2:32pm

That's really a shame.

PumpkinAngel

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Thu, 03-23-2006 - 2:35pm
school doesn't host scout meetings. the library, individual homes do.

 

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Thu, 03-23-2006 - 2:37pm

I have a pretty good group of moms who help me out with snacks or supplies, just none of them wanted to lead the troop.

PumpkinAngel

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Thu, 03-23-2006 - 2:39pm

"Am I correct in understanding that your answer is: "No extended day programs, on or off school grounds, are developmentally appropriate?"

And yet once again, I think extended days, in and of themselves, regardless of the type of program, are developmentally inappropriate.

And yet once again, from the OP:

"According to the Stanford and UC study, children who spend more than six hours a day in center-based care outside the home showed poor social skills. It is especially pronounced among middle and upper-income children.

Researchers noted social detriments such as "diminished levels of cooperation, sharing, motivated engagement in classroom tasks and greater aggression."

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Thu, 03-23-2006 - 2:40pm

Oh.

PumpkinAngel

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Thu, 03-23-2006 - 2:40pm
im not sure that is the reason for full day kindergarten. if you notice most kindergarten classes are now learning alot of the things that we learned in first grade. i think it is more a push to have the kids ready to start their standardized testing in 2nd grade. i know when i was in kindergarten we learned to color, write our names and stand in a straight line, now kids are expected to have started math and reading before they are out of kindergarten, our kids were even doing journaling in kindergarten.
Jennie
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Thu, 03-23-2006 - 2:43pm

"Am I correct in understanding that your answer is: "No extended day programs, on or off school grounds, are developmentally appropriate?"

BTW, here are a few excerpts from the NICHD Early Child Care Study wrt this particular topic.

"The more time children spend in any of a variety of nonmaternal care arrangements across the first 4.5 years of life, the more externalizing problems and conflict with adults they manifest at 54 months of age and in kindergarten."

"These effects remain, for the most part, even when quality, type, and instability of child care are controlled, as well as when maternal sensitivity and other family background factors are taken into account."

"the data show that as children accumulate more time in care across the infant, toddler, and preschool years, the more externalizing problems and conflict with adults they manifest; and that more time in care not only predicts problem behavior measured on a continuous scale, but at-risk (though not clinical) levels of problem behavior, as well as assertiveness, disobedience and aggression."

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Thu, 03-23-2006 - 2:43pm
exactly.....
Jennie
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Thu, 03-23-2006 - 2:46pm
my daughters brownie troop has 18 girls, i cant imagine having that many 1st and 2nd grade girls invade my home. another thing that is nice about having it at the school is that the 3rd and 4th grade girl scout troop meets at the same time so the two groups can do some activities together.
Jennie

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