Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Fri, 03-24-2006 - 1:15pm

"no, i dont think you do anything special."

Again, nor do I.

"i think you just like to give it a label, if not to make yourself feel better then i cant imagine why you would do it - but whatever."

I label it as child-led homeschooling/unschooling because that's what it is.

Why this is such a sensitive issue for many on the board, I don't pretend to understand.

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Registered: 11-03-2005
Fri, 03-24-2006 - 1:16pm

<<*CHILDREN* do not have a developmental need for extended day substitute childcare programs. >>

I agree. And have never stated anything differently. I don't think my children NEED the programs they are/were in. However, those programs aren't developmentally inappropriate. The programs I have chosen meet the needs they do have. Since the programs they were/are in aren't the ONLY way to meet those needs, I can't say that my children NEED the programs. And I've never stated differently.

An analogy .. I don't need milk. I do need calcium. So, I can choose to have milk meet that need for calcium. Still doesn't mean I NEED milk. And the fact that I don't NEED milk, does not mean that milk is nutritionally inappropriate.

To repeat (something you're so fond of). My childre don't NEED center-based care. They need activities, both structured and unstructured, that provide mental stimulation, provide emotional stabitily and create social development. I have chosen XYZ Center to meet that need. Still doesn't mean they NEED XYZ Center. And the fact that they don't NEED XYZ Center does not mean that XYZ Center is developmentally inappropriate.

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Fri, 03-24-2006 - 1:16pm

"For many, many, many families, a parent's work schedule is what determines the need for some sort of "program". In that portion of the equatioin, the parent's work schedule is of prime importance."

The bottom line here is this:

A *PARENT'S* logistical and financial needs do NOT = A *CHILD'S* developmental needs

In other words, *PARENTS* needs and *CHILDREN'S* needs simply aren't interchangeable.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 03-24-2006 - 1:18pm

Ok, assume for argument's sake you're right, and that many dual WOHPs run the "risk" of having their children in developmentally inappropriate childcare programs.

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Fri, 03-24-2006 - 1:19pm

"Why not? Because society needs a well educated populace, but not a well cared for populace?"

Because a universal public school system is a societal responsibility.

Where as a universal dc system, is not.

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Registered: 11-03-2005
Fri, 03-24-2006 - 1:19pm

Applying a label creates a dichotomy when you try to use that label to differentiate between two like things.

In other words, calling a potato a potahto doesn't change the fact that it is a Solanum tuberosum. But if someone called it a PoTayto to try to say it wasn't a Solanum tuberosum, then there is an issue.

(BTW, there is no "e" in potato)

So, if you call it homeschooling and we call it parenting fine ... except that by calling it homeschooling, you are trying to turn it into a different entity.

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Fri, 03-24-2006 - 1:20pm

Got milk?


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Registered: 11-03-2005
Fri, 03-24-2006 - 1:21pm
You've read all my posts. I'm not going to bore everyone else with numerous repetitions of things that have been clear from the beginning.
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Registered: 01-13-2006
Fri, 03-24-2006 - 1:22pm

"Is your ultimate agenda to try to get more families to have a SAHP or WAHP?"

No, my ultimate agenda is to get people to stop equating *PARENT'S* logistical and financial needs with *CHILDREN'S* develomental needs, as if they are somehow interchangeable.

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Fri, 03-24-2006 - 1:24pm
the words homeschooling and parenting are not interchangable. and sure anyone can call something anything they like doesnt mean it is right - i can call myself a doctor, after all i treat my kids colds, but me saying it doesnt make it true. when you call what you are doing homeschooling you are minimizing the work that is done by those families who truly are homeschooling thier children - something you are not doing.
Jennie

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