Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Fri, 03-24-2006 - 4:59pm

There is generally not enough left of the mouse carcasses my cat drags in to try examining it, though I give you points for creativity on that one.

Mondo

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Fri, 03-24-2006 - 5:09pm

"Great post.

As usual."

So, I suppose that you agree that children do NOT have a developmental need for education?

Seeing as this was the premise of susannahk2000's post.

So what *do* you think the developmental needs of children are?

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Fri, 03-24-2006 - 5:15pm

"I told her parents rather than taxpayers paid for before and aftercare well over 200 posts ago. Did not register at that time."

A universal public dc system = taxpayer money. Does it not?

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Fri, 03-24-2006 - 5:17pm

"There is generally not enough left of the mouse carcasses my cat drags in to try examining it, though I give you points for creativity on that one.

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Fri, 03-24-2006 - 5:26pm

Well, my oldest DD wants to dig up our

Mondo

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Fri, 03-24-2006 - 5:27pm

"Children do not have a developmental need for an education provided by the state."

I didn't say that they did.

I said:

Perhaps because children have a developmental need for an education.

Where as, they do not have a developmental need for substitute childcare.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 03-24-2006 - 5:45pm
The developmental needs of children were set eons ago, long before civilization developed, and include proper food, exercise and social interaction. Education is not a developmental need. Rather, it is a knowledge base that children will need in order to function in modern society.
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Fri, 03-24-2006 - 5:54pm

http://www.siu.edu/~aftersch/dev_nds.htm

NOtice that for kids 5-6, 7-9, and 10-13 they do not list any educational needs. In fact, other than the name of the group this is posted by, the word education isn't even used. Kids have developmental *cognitive* needs ... but those don't require an education to be met.

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Fri, 03-24-2006 - 5:56pm

No it doesn't. You just have confused "developmental need" with what a child needs to function in modern society. They aren't the same thing at all.

Take literacy. Literacy is pretty much mandatory in order to function in modern society. Note that I said "modern" society. The need for literacy in order to function in society is a pretty recent need. Really only within the last couple centuries has literacy become necessary for the average person. Who knows what new skills and knowledge bases will be needed 200 years from now. And yet, the developmental needs of a child 1000 years ago are exactly the same as they are today and as they will be 200 years from now. Children have always needed healthy food, exercise, and social interaction and will continue tom need these things in the exact same proportion as they always have since the human race evolved.

The problem is that you have confused developmental needs- which are constant through the species- with what a child will need to function as an adult in a particular society. And that changes radically over time and from one geographical area to another.

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Fri, 03-24-2006 - 6:28pm

Believe me, I'm not that creative by nature. That was definitely a child-led day. :)

Boy can I relate. I certainly have no personal interest (and even very little knowledge at times) wrt many of my dd's projects/interests such as:

rockets, word problems, owls/dissecting owl pellets, chess, Chinese Brush Art, making paper sunbursts (made with a icosahedron base and 20 hexagonal pyramid points), building and painting various vehicles (boats, airplanes, cars) out of wood, performing endless experiments, making oobleeck, homemade pixie sticks, gummy worms, fruit roll ups, rock candy, playdough, soap, chalk, candles, etc. feeding/caring for a veritable zoo of tarantulas, tiger salamanders, snakes, hermit crabs, lizards, frogs, fish, birds, cats, etc. the four week, 24 hours process of polishing rocks, pottery/wheel throwing, bird watching, making U.S./world flags, building 3D puzzles of famous landmarks, etc.

However, I must say that my dd's excitement/interest in such things has certainly prompted me to look at life more closely, use my imagination, expand my horizons, and appreciate what's it's like to see the world through the eyes of a child.

Who knew that *I* would be the one learning from my child. Go figure.

"In the homeschooling community the term 'unschooling' isn't so much a catch phrase or fancy label as much as it is a way of describing a person's educational philosophy or stance on educational methods."

Absolutely! Unschooling is very much a way of describing a person's educational philosophy.

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