Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 5:33pm

I know this has been covered already.
But "homeschooling" implies that the child is schooled at home *instead* of at a school.
What you call "homeschooling" is home "enrichment."

Here's a link to the "Homeschooling" board. Go there and see what the posters there say.
http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/listsf.asp?webtag=iv-pphschooling&nav=start




Edited 4/3/2006 5:35 pm ET by iaudrey00
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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 5:44pm
My point is being facetious isn't lying.
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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 5:51pm
The point of shining you on like that was to point out that educational activities done by a child who attends an actual school are not "homeschooling". Your Humpty-Dumpty-ish misuse of the word is a deliberate attempt to downplay the role that paid teachers have in educating your child and make yourself seem more important in comparison.
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Registered: 01-13-2006
Mon, 04-03-2006 - 5:53pm

"Geesh! Give the girl a break!"

A break from what??? Play based, arts integrated, hands on, child-led learning???

BTW, what part of *child-led* do you not understand LOL?

Perhaps you meant to say Geesh! Make the girl watch silly tv and play video games all day?

Is there something wrong with a child choosing to engage in play based, arts integrated, hands on, child-led learning activities? GASP!!! Oh, the horror of it all!!!

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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 5:57pm
The point was that you are no different than any other parent with a child enrolled in school. If you are homeschooling, then so is EVERY other parent who does educational activities with a child. What she was doing was pointing out that she does the same things as you, but that she doesn't normally call it "homeschooling". She decided to call it "homeschooling" for the purposes of debate- she changed the label but not the content. And that was the point. That all you have done is slap the label "homeschool" on activities that other parents and children routinely do outside of school hours. But it is no more "homeschooling" than a lemonade stand in the front yard is a restaurant. You use a label incorrectly and have been called on it many times. This was just a particularly hyperbolic (and hilarious) way of calling you on it.
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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:00pm

"But "homeschooling" implies that the child is schooled at home *instead* of at a school."

Ah, the key word here being *implies*.

"What you call "homeschooling" is home "enrichment."

Actually, what I call homeschooling, is just that, homeschooling.

"Here's a link to the "Homeschooling" board. Go there and see what the posters there say."

Thanks for the link. But I lurk there pretty regularly.

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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:02pm

"My point is being facetious isn't lying."

Fair enough.

However, lying is still lying in my book.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:10pm

I understand "child-led" just fine. It sounds like your dd is playing, just like children always have and always will. She learns through play, as all children do. Your mistake (a very deliberate "mistake") is to label everything that leads to learning as "homeschooling". This amazing act of mislabeling means that every child is "homeschooled" because all children are constantly learning through all the activities that they do. However, people who don't actually send their children to school made up a word to convey to the world the fact that their children are NOT enrolled in a school and INSTEAD learn through other venues.

When you appropriate the word "homeschool" to refer to activities done in addition to school, rather than instead of it, you insult all people who actually did do all the hard work of replacing what paid teachers do. You haven't replaced any of that. You let the teachers do their work with your dd and then label her recreation as "homeschooling" simply because her recreation is not literally mindless video games and TV. You are like that guy at the marathon (there's one at every marathon) who leaps amongst the tired runners at the last half mile or so and then says that he too is a marathon runner.

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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:13pm
Ummm.. yes, lying is lying. (??)
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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:14pm

She was no more lying than you are when you list all the things your dd does IN ADDITION TO SCHOOL as "homeschooling". Either neither of you were lying, or you both were. Since you both gave lists of educational things your kids do outside of school. You have decided to call it "homeschooling" in all seriousness and she was calling it "homeschooling" as a hyperbolic debate tactic. But you both do the same thing.

And that was the point. That you both do the same thing but you insist on calling it "homeschooling" and expect people to respect that incorrect use of the word.

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