Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:20pm
You are wrong and I will not respect your misuse of a word that has a very specific meaning. The term "homeschooling" refers to education that is done at home or other venues INSTEAD OF in a school. You have been misusing that word for long enough. It's time for you to either stop or else admit that every single other parent on this board also homeschools. Just because you have chosen to misuse a word does not mean the word suddenly takes on new meaning just for you and your dd. It has the same meaning it has always had. And NO CHILD who is enrolled in school is being homeschooled because "school enrollment" and "homeschool" are mutually exclusive. I don't know why you persist in this Humptey Dumptey act, but calling you on it via hyperbole was not lying. It was simply doing the exact same thing that you do every time you post here: label all educational play as "homeschooling".
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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:22pm
If you lurk at the Homeschooling board then you should've realized by now that what you do is not "homeschooling."
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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:22pm

"The point of shining you on like that was to point out that educational activities done by a child who attends an actual school are not "homeschooling"."

Yeah, I don't know why anyone would feel the need to resort to lying.

"Your Humpty-Dumpty-ish misuse of the word is a deliberate attempt to downplay the role that paid teachers have in educating your child and make yourself seem more important in comparison."

Actually, my dd's paid teachers are = to her unpaid teachers (dh and I).

Why would dh and I be more important?

BTW, welcome back to the debate. Perhaps you could address post 612 now (here's a link).

http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-pssahwoh&msg=16686.612

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:45pm

"You use a label incorrectly and have been called on it many times."

Nope. My label is correct.

In fact, dd is homeschooled/unschooled more days per year than she goes to public school.

Not sure why some of you are so sensitive about it.

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to reply to post 216.

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:50pm

"I understand "child-led" just fine."

No, apparently, you do not understand.

BTW, I was talking to okie.

Still waiting on post 612.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:51pm

Sure. I think that you are dead wrong that developmental needs are constantly evolving. We as a species are really no different now than we were many thousands of years ago. We have created a fair amount of technology and complex social structures in the intervening millenia. But our biology remains the same. And the developmental needs of children are a function of biology. Therefore, they change at the same incredibly slow pace that biology does. They will not change until the actual biology of the species changes, making us into a new species. Until then, what a child needs to develop into a normal adult is the same now as it was thousands of years ago. What has changed is what a child needs to learn in order to function in a particular society.

You have obviously confused what a child needs to learn in order to function in a particular society with "developmental needs". Think this through: do you really think the developmental needs of children are different depending on what society they are born into?

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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:56pm
No. Your label is not correct. I am sensitive about it because it really irks me when people think that they can make a word mean something different simply by declaring that their new meaning is the correct one. Being enrolled in school and homeschooling are mutually exclusive. This is the meaning that literally everybody else uses when using the owrd "homeschool". That you refuse to adhere to the accepted meaning of the word is very irksome. It is as annoying to me as it would be for somebody to call themselves a "doctor" because they gave their kids cough syrup. Thus my Humptey Dumptey references. It irked Lewis Carroll a lot too. Enough that he made this deliberate word misuse a plot point in his books.
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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 6:57pm

"She was no more lying than you are when you list all the things your dd does IN ADDITION TO SCHOOL as "homeschooling"."

Yeah, the only difference is that I'm not lying about homeschooling.

"Either neither of you were lying, or you both were."

Nope just one. Psst, btw it wasn't me.

"But you both do the same thing."

No, actually dh and I homeschool/unschool where as she does not. Which she has admitted btw.

Can you say post 612?

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Mon, 04-03-2006 - 7:00pm
"Child led" means that the child calls the shots. When the child is enrolled in school, what they do for recreation after school is called "recreation". The term "child led homeschooling" is reserved for those who don't enroll their children in school. I completely disaprove of it, but that is a debate that I have had several times with actual homeschoolers. I worry that "child led homeschooling" could lead to significant gaps in knowledge because children don't know what it is they will be expected to have mastered by age 18 and need adult guidance. I have no such worry with your dd because her teachers are making sure that the curriculum is covered and she is in no danger of knowledge gaps because she is not homeschooled.
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Registered: 01-13-2006
Mon, 04-03-2006 - 7:02pm

"You are wrong"

Prove it.

"and I will not respect your misuse of a word that has a very specific meaning."

So?

"It's time for you to either stop or else admit that every single other parent on this board also homeschools."

Nope. No can do. That would be lying.

Psst. Post 612

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