Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful

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Long hrs in preschool/daycare harmful
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Sun, 03-19-2006 - 3:09pm

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051101/news_1n1earlyed.html

Very interesting. Particularly the difference in the middle to upper income kids vs low income.

"I personally feel children need the nurture of their parents and the home," she said. "Those early years, that's when they are bonding to their family. That nurturing, only the family can give that."

I tend to agree.

MM, WOHM to B&E, 7.24.03

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Tue, 04-04-2006 - 12:06pm

"It's not a question of sensitivity but of accepted definitions of a common term."

Ah, but clearly not everyone agrees on the definition of every "common" term. Hence the reason why semantics and interpretation are often an issue, particularly wrt debate. As I have stated on many ocassions, IMHO, there is a certain degree of subjectivity and/or personal interpretation involved here, which often tends to be the underlying source of the more heated debates.

Does everyone accept the same defintion wrt the following terms/concepts/ideas:

God, love, evil, sin, truth, spirituality, art, beauty, murder, morals, morality, immorality, marriage, evolution, expensive, funny, appropriate, inappropriate, tasteful, distasteful, conformity, nonconformity, etc, etc, etc?

Likewise does everyone accept the definitions/distinctions/differences between the following:

daycare vs. school, daycare vs. preschool, toddlers vs. preschool aged children, dcp's vs. teachers, breastfeeding vs. ebm via bottle feeding, full day preschool vs. full time preschool, cribs vs. cages, othercare vs. parental and extended family care, homeschooling vs. parenting, SAHM, WOHM, PTWOHM, private school vs. paraochial school, etc, etc, etc?

For instance, as a Pantheist/Evolutionist, I most certainly believe in God and/or a Higher Power. However, I am not religious, nor even a Christian. Therefore, most people would inaccurately say/claim that I don't really believe in God, seeing as I don't believe in a religious, "Christian" God.

However, I would wholeheartedly agree. As is my God given right LOL :)

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Registered: 12-29-2004
Tue, 04-04-2006 - 12:20pm
Some concepts are abstract and hard to pin down, but IMO there's just no ambiguity here. What I do wonder is what would prompt a parent to claim otherwise. I also wonder what criteria such a parent might apply to homeschooling, since they seem to differ from the most commonly accepted ones. As I said, by what seem to be your criteria, I'm a homeschooler, too.
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Tue, 04-04-2006 - 12:20pm
Hi there! Welcome to the "other board".
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Registered: 01-13-2006
Tue, 04-04-2006 - 12:39pm

"Your comments on the 150 day argument that you are now claiming pertains to preschool, also include your comments that your dd attended school for 6 hours a day on those 150days."

My dd started preschool at the age of 3 and was in the same program until she was 4.9. She went to preschool on Tues/Wed/Thurs from 8 until noon. In other words, 12 hours a week.

At 4.9, she went to K-1 at the same school for 6 hours a day.

"So which is it? The regular school calendar or the untraditional school calendar for preschool?"

The school where she attended preschool/K-1, followed an untraditional school calendar, however it followed the regular school calendar wrt to the typical breaks (out of school for 2 weeks at Christmas, a week for spring break, during the summer, etc). The ultimate difference being that the summer was extended (school started after Labor day and ended early to mid May). Please note the difference between the typical breaks vs. the typical *length* of breaks.

"Four hours a day 150 days a year or 6 hours a day for 150 days a year?"

Both. See above.

"Preschool or elementary school?"

Both. See above.

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Registered: 04-04-2006
Tue, 04-04-2006 - 12:43pm

Well, she's nothing if not consistent.....

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Tue, 04-04-2006 - 1:06pm

"Some concepts are abstract and hard to pin down, but IMO there's just no ambiguity here."

And that's precisely why it's your opinion.

"What I do wonder is what would prompt a parent to claim otherwise."

Yes, I often wonder why people claim to be breastfeeding vs. bottle feeding EBM.

Or why people claim that they send their 18 month old to school vs. dc.

Or why people claim that their child attends full time preschool vs. a part-time preschool/part time dc combo program.

BTW, in the cases above, there is clearly a discrepancy between what is being claimed, and what is actually being done.

However, in my case, I am honestly doing exactly what I claim to be doing. I wouldn't dream of lying about practices and/or philosophies which are an integral aspect of our daily family life.

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Tue, 04-04-2006 - 1:08pm

"As I said, by what seem to be your criteria, I'm a homeschooler, too."

And what criteria would that be?

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Registered: 12-29-2004
Tue, 04-04-2006 - 1:14pm

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Since when is our own confusion legitimized by the confusion of others?

<< there is clearly a discrepancy between what is being claimed, and what is actually being done.>>

Maybe, maybe not, but how is that relevant to the question of whether there's a discrepancy between what you do and what you claim to do?

<< I am honestly doing exactly what I claim to be doing. I wouldn't dream of lying about practices and/or philosophies which are an integral aspect of our daily family life.>>

I wouldn't claim you're lying, but the claim has been made. Am I lying when I claim to homeschool? Or perhaps afterschool?

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Tue, 04-04-2006 - 1:16pm

"Can I help?"

Sure, by all means :)

"From what I've gathered, the type of thing you do with your dd is called "afterschooling" at least in the circles I participate."

What about the 190 days per year when she is *not* in public school?

Is this "afterschooling" too?

"As long as your dd is attending school full time, what you are doing is called that."

Technically, she is attending school:

full days, 6 hours a day, 175 days per year, 36 weeks a year *as opposed to*

full time, 8 hours a day, 355 days per year, 50 weeks a year.

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Registered: 12-29-2004
Tue, 04-04-2006 - 1:17pm
What criteria? That's the question, isn't it? Maybe there are no criteria. In that case, I'm a homeschooler, just as you are. No criteria needed.

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