Maternity Leave?

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Maternity Leave?
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Thu, 12-29-2011 - 11:21am

What do you think is the optimum time for both moms and babies to be on maternity leave?

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 12:10pm

Yes, exactly. To me, the defining mark of socialism is that the state owns the means of production. Back in the 60s and 70s there were attempts at this in various European countries, although it remained somewhat limited in most cases. Thing is, the EU has rolled all that back ages ago already, and so many European governments are in any event quite conservative - Merkel, our former PM Fogh Rasmussen, Cameron and many others.

I do remember when I was in college in the US, that my fellow students did often seem a little naive about political stuff. Our education on the subject was also pretty sketchy, but we did have some classes along the way (in HS) in which the basic characteristics of various political ideologies were outlined at least.

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 11:53am
Yes, it's probably the fault of our educational system that people don't really understand this. I find it particularly ironic when I hear senior citizens railing against the "socialist" Obamacare.
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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 11:50am
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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 10:15am

There is no law in Denmark that 1yos MUST go to daycare. But for dual WOH families it is available and since most people have some kind of job, it is the norm for kids to attend daycare. I have friends who SAH in Denmark. It is perfectly legal and possible, if someone chooses to do that.

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 10:14am

Um....okay?

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 10:10am
i don't identify myself by one political party, i think the tea party is a joke and all that wall street protesting stuff is too.

 

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 10:06am

i don't think debating a controversial topic translates to hyper-ventilating, Lol.

 

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 10:00am

Yes, I am aware of this tendency among the TPers. It seems to be due to their worship of Ayn Rand, which is just so juvenile and misguided. Greenspan admitted that he was wrong, after all, did they completely miss that?

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 9:55am
rollmops2009 wrote:

I also find it amusing that many Americans consider public school perfectly normal in a capitalist society


Never fear; there's a growing movement among the Tea Party whacks which is aimed at changing the American opinion on that, as well.

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 9:49am

I also find it amusing that many Americans consider public school perfectly normal in a capitalist society, but the minute that public education is extended to younger children it is suddenly "socialist." Likewise Medicare is considered akin to a human right by many, but any kind of universal healthcare is suddenly "socialist" again. I have to assume that there is widespread confusion about what "socialism" is.

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