Maternity Leave?

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Maternity Leave?
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Thu, 12-29-2011 - 11:21am

What do you think is the optimum time for both moms and babies to be on maternity leave?

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 8:21am

Huh? What on earth do you mean by "socialist"? The current head of NATO was our prime minister for 8 years. Hardly a raging communist or anything. Right now the government is something like your Democrats, but for the previous ten years or so, it was a conservative coalition that was in charge.

Yes, daycare is partly subsidized to ensure good quality and access for everyone to quality daycare. Similar to the reasons why health care for seniors is subsidized in the US (hint: subsidizing services does not mean that the government is "socialist").

As Puss said, Denmark is a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary system of government.

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 8:42am
Does having subsidized public education make the United States a socialist country?
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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 8:44am
your original comment mentioned that most kids enter a daycare environment by the age of one, there is no one daycare norm or standard in the united states. about subsidized services not meaning socialism, that is true but many social programs are subsidized and controlled by the government.

 

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 9:00am

No, I know there is no one standard for daycare in the US, which is why quality varies so wildly there, and why poorer children often end up with sub-standard care.

Social programs in all countries, including the US, are typically run by the government and very often also subsidized by the government. Again, in and of itself, it has nothing to do with a country being "socialist."

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 9:02am
bordwithyou wrote:
Does having subsidized public education make the United States a socialist country?

That is a good comparison actually, since most Danes consider the daycare system equivalent to preschool in many ways, and therefore part of the educational system. Even SAHMs will typically send their kids to daycare at age three or so, for the social and educational benefits.

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 9:38am
Many services are run by the government here - we have libraries, schools, hospitals, parks, Medicare, social secuirity, museums, and many other amenities/services we have chosen to pay for with public funds. I have never understood why we accept all those things, yet the moment we mention state-subsidized daycare, people start hyper-ventilating.
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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 9:49am

I also find it amusing that many Americans consider public school perfectly normal in a capitalist society, but the minute that public education is extended to younger children it is suddenly "socialist." Likewise Medicare is considered akin to a human right by many, but any kind of universal healthcare is suddenly "socialist" again. I have to assume that there is widespread confusion about what "socialism" is.

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 9:55am
rollmops2009 wrote:

I also find it amusing that many Americans consider public school perfectly normal in a capitalist society


Never fear; there's a growing movement among the Tea Party whacks which is aimed at changing the American opinion on that, as well.

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 10:00am

Yes, I am aware of this tendency among the TPers. It seems to be due to their worship of Ayn Rand, which is just so juvenile and misguided. Greenspan admitted that he was wrong, after all, did they completely miss that?

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Fri, 12-30-2011 - 10:06am

i don't think debating a controversial topic translates to hyper-ventilating, Lol.

 

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