Met a mom last week with 3 kids under 3

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Met a mom last week with 3 kids under 3
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Sat, 03-25-2006 - 9:59am

A 2 year old and 17 month old twins. First she accomplished *that* through two surrogates! Wonderful what modern medicine can do.
Anyway, she doesnt work full time, she consults to several companies so is out of the home one full day then a few hours a day on other days. Sometimes for work, sometimes to go to the gym, etc.
She has a full time live in nanny, and two part time nannies. Essentially they always have someone with them and the kids. She feels she needs two to properly care for her three.
I immediately thought of all the comments her lifestyle would elicit from this board.
The day she and I met she had just come from a 2 hour session at the gym, and was then heading off to go do some shopping.
BTW, she's a complete rock star in industry, having 'retired' a year ago after a 30 year career that took her right up to the top of corporate America so she's definetly *earned* her right to do whatever the heck she wants.
But anyway, she feels she is a super hands on mom. I was curious what others would think?

MM

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Tue, 03-28-2006 - 11:46pm

Not once. My main argument has been that her $$ or career doesn't have an effect on what rights she has a parent nor makes her an extraordinary parent."

Well then what the heck is the issue? I've never said her $ or her career impact her being an extraodinary parent (in fact I never called her an extraordinary parent). Again, you seem to hijack this post and use it to prove a "point" I personally never tried to make.

So for the record, I agree with the above.

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Tue, 03-28-2006 - 11:50pm
Yes I agree with you. And my twins are 2 3/4. But I don't have another child less than 3 too. I would think that would complicated the one on one time. Plus, this isnt about you, or me. If this woman, in her late 40's needs/ wants the help, why is that an issue? She can call herself hands on. Its her own definition. Why all the talons out? I just don't get that. To me its more of the mommy olympics....
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Tue, 03-28-2006 - 11:53pm

I agree.

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Wed, 03-29-2006 - 12:04am

Do you have a problem with people investing in real estate, flipping houses and making a profit,

Nope. But let's not pretend you have no vested interest in attracting people to purchasing properties in bad school districts. You make your living at it. Kinda lends a bit of bias to your opinion, same as if someone here were an executive at Similac arguing that formula is just as good as breastmilk.

We're talking about what is, for the majority of people, the single largest investment they'll ever make. People can buy where they like, but it doesn't change the fact that good public schools are the single largest indicator of stability/good appreciation in property values. Doesn't mean people buying your homes are getting a bad deal, but--all other things being equal, your homes compared to properties in good school districts cannot command the same prices.

It's not a personal attack on you to state those facts. You flatter yourself if you think I have any feelings, good or bad, wrt you.

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Wed, 03-29-2006 - 12:07am
And?

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Karen

"Veronica: "I hate fake deer too. Every time I see their stupid fake-deer faces I want to grab a shotgun and go all Cheney on 'em." Sure, but since fake deer don't talk, they won't

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Wed, 03-29-2006 - 1:51am

"Gosh PNJ you are really quite bitter on this subject.
I'm over it with you. Apparently this one cuts too close to home. Maybe, just maybe, if you spent more time doing things you actually loved, vs. 10,000+ posts at a job you don't seem particularly enthralled with, you'd be more positive? Just a thought."

I'm sorry, but this struck as a bit too personal and definitely un-called for.

Just a general thought for everyone in this thread: please, please try to stick to debating the post and not the poster! TPTB do watch this board rather closely and if a thread is closed due to personal attacks, everyone who participated in the thread gets a black mark against their name regardless of the content of their posts.

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Wed, 03-29-2006 - 4:45am
Exactly. I just think 3 is excessive.
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Wed, 03-29-2006 - 5:08am

<<, or 4) submit evidence parent can teach and use curriculum that includes state objectives for language arts and math"...>>

It's that 4th option, which many states have btw, that is just too arbitrary IMO. That option allows the parent with only a high school degree to simply submit in writing his credentials and why he believes he should be allowed to hs. That option is a way around the college degree or the teacher's license requirement.

And I can imagine states must anticipate and want to avoid lawsuits based on freedom of religion by parents who truly want to homeschool. I can't see the school district possibly winning such a suit.

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Wed, 03-29-2006 - 5:12am
Thank you for clarifying for me. In your experience, have you known homeschoolers to come to your elementary schools for Special Ed remedial-type services (language delays, occupational therapy, etc.) or for the gifted services or both? You may not have seen either, but I thought I'd ask since you're our resident insider on the subject!
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Wed, 03-29-2006 - 5:31am

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I didn't make that connection. Do you think all hs'ed children are gifted?

<> Right, if the child is being tutored in his 1 or 2 or 3 gifted areas, I wouldn't mind utilizing a tutor without a license. But if the gifted child is removed entirely from the school system and is hs'ed, the person should have a license because he will be teaching the child in other areas that he's not gifted in. And even the most talented, need to learn how to teach.

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If the HS'ing parent isn't doing "most" of the instruction, it just seems to me that the HS'ing parent is then taking great pains to do everything to avoid using the local schools. The best resources and "mentors" work for and are paid by schools. IMO, the fringe element who tutor *AND* do not work for any school system whatsoever are inferior.

And even then, mentors, tutors, transportation to college classes, etc. can be arranged immediately after the private/public school day ends. I think the socialization of school is that important that the gifted child can wait until 2 or 3 pm for additional specialized tuition.

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