Militants - are they for real?

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Militants - are they for real?
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Tue, 04-14-2009 - 6:59pm

Someone on another board posted this link.
http://blogs.babycenter.com/celebrities/2009/04/12/dr-laura-says-all-moms-should-stay-at-home/?scid=momstodd_20090414_A:2&pe=2U8vYLf
It's about Dr. Laura saying that all women should be SAHMs until the child is at least 3 years old.

Whether we're talking about working or staying at home, I can't quite wrap my head around what is going on inside the brains of people that apply the phrase "all women should".

Do you think militants are actually serious, or just trying to get a rise out of others?

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Mon, 05-04-2009 - 2:45pm

<< I don't know, maybe it's a sacrilege to say in a group of women that you didn't think your own c-section was all that bad.>>

Nah, it's not. Nobody is disputing at all that you didn't find your births to be emotionally or psychologically traumatic or even unpleasant. But if you put the word "medical" in front of the word "trauma", then people are going to use the word trauma in the medical sense (and in the medical sense, surgery involves inflicting tissue trauma). That's all we're saying.

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Mon, 05-04-2009 - 2:46pm

I think I've already answered this in other posts.

To keep it short, the part you highlighted is how I define a natural and and uncomplicated childbirth. As I already explained elsewhere, however, by natural, I thought you meant vaginal rather than c-section. So let's say that I do not consider a vaginal, uncomplicated childbirth to be a medical trauma.

I was talking about myself only when I talked about my own c-sections and my perception of them. I'm sorry if that was unclear to you.

Once again, I did not say surgery wasn't a major medical trauma in general. I'm sure it is. I said that *I* did not consider my own c-sections to be a medical trauma.

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Mon, 05-04-2009 - 2:46pm

Given the amount of change and stress our bodes go through with pregnancy and childbirth, I don't think it's wimpy at all.

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Mon, 05-04-2009 - 2:47pm

>> I think that most families have things within their control that they could change that would change their stress level. That could be work status, that could be commute distance, <<

Commute distance, what a great example. I decided several years ago that I was only going to accept work in a fairly tight geographic radius. I just can't deal with a long commute. I know that I could make a bit more money if I expanded my radius a bit, but my sanity is far more important to me than the little bit extra I could earn. (Which explains why I can't relate to this 11 extra hours gained by not commuting business.)

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Mon, 05-04-2009 - 2:52pm

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I guess I have a different definition of fetal distress, to me that would be an emergency situation.


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Mon, 05-04-2009 - 2:54pm

If your state provides paid family leave, maybe that's why employers don't offer it (or maybe it's the other way around--the state had to adopt family leave because employers weren't providing it).

My state doesn't have paid family leave, but most people I know in professional jobs get paid parenting leave. At my old firm it was 6 weeks (at least when I was there). The university where I work now pays 10 weeks for staff and a full semester for faculty--for men and women.

I really like the idea of taking family leave out of the employment situation. It's much fairer.

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Mon, 05-04-2009 - 2:57pm

Then I don't understand....why wouldn't you just have continued in labor if it wasn't an emergency c-section and there wasn't any medical trauma involved?

PumpkinAngel

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Mon, 05-04-2009 - 2:57pm

>> So let's say that I do not consider a vaginal, uncomplicated childbirth to be a medical trauma. <<

My friend who ended up with a tear all the way to her bumhole does, though.

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Mon, 05-04-2009 - 2:58pm
Thanks...

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Mon, 05-04-2009 - 2:59pm
I hope the repeat c-section goes much better for you! I found it a bit anticlimatic--no labor, no drama, they just wheel you in and in minutes it's over--but once you're holding your baby it's all good. And after your last experience, anticlimatic probably sounds like a real blessing.

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