No napping allowed?

"Discussing what time one is expected to return home, and adhering to common courtesy, can be acheived w/out an arbitrary curfew being set."

"Teens are kind of adults in training and adults do not leave the house with a set time they need to be home they go home when they are done with their plans."

Yes, exactly what I mean by teaching them to set their own boundaries, rational and reasonable ones.

Just taggin on here, with an example. We went out (the family) on Friday night. the *event* didn't start until 7pm. But, many people were late, and the event didn't really get going until after 8. I had it in my head, to take my kids home and have them in bed around 9. But, at 9pm, the host of the event had started a fire, and all of the kids were roasting marshmallows. They kids were behaving well, we were having a good time, and we didnt have any plans for the next morning. Dh and I decided to stay later than we had originally planned.

As an adult, I have that freedom. Having an arbitrary time that we had to be home would have been silly, and disappointing for all of us.