What do you think about this?
That is how it was with my kids (and with me as a teen).
But why do you think it is "ridiculous"?
"Discussing what time one is expected to return home, and adhering to common courtesy, can be acheived w/out an arbitrary curfew being set."
I've been trying to think whether or not I had a curfew as a teenager, but I don't think I did.
"Teens are kind of adults in training and adults do not leave the house with a set time they need to be home they go home when they are done with their plans."
Yes, exactly what I mean by teaching them to set their own boundaries, rational and reasonable ones.
That is how we did it with dd as well, except they usually were out, not at someone's house, and by the time they were past 12-13, they often stayed out later than 11.
I think the only times I got home past 11pm was when I was babysitting for a family who stayed out late or if I wasn't planning on coming home at all that night (like for sleepovers or prom/afterprom).
i agree about an event that never lasted past a certain hour.