Opt out or left out?

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Mon, 05-13-2013 - 3:31pm

This article says that most SAH moms do so, because they can't afford to work (i.e. couldn't make enough to cover their childcare costs).  Or that their husband's income is in the top 5% of earners in the US.  So SAHMs are at the two extreme ends of income.  This seems to me to be pretty much what we've found through discussions on this board.  Do you think that there should be programs in place to make it easier for SAHMs in the lower income brackets to go back to work?  How could this be accomplished?

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/opt-out-or-left-out-economics-stay-home-moms-1C9881635

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 2:29pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">Just because you weren't able to do that?  </span></p><p style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:small"><strong><span style="font-size:x-small"><span>No need to, we were approved for a mortgage without another lender on our mortgage. Possibly because we waited and had a larger down payment (again, planning). </span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">You have mentioned in the past that your family has helped you out by giving you things or paying for things.  Why do you feel so negatively about anyone else getting similar help?</span></p><p style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:small"><strong><span style="font-size:x-small"><span>EXTRA help, not help because we were struggling or did not have the resources to do it ourselves. I think most families get this with support from families in the way of presents, etc.</span></span></strong></span></p>

This seems to be in response to me even though you failed to put my name in there...

It's ok to give people trips to another state (or whatever the heck your family did) but not ok to give people money to feed their family or help get a roof over their head.  You really don't approve of this?  I don't see why again--it's not welfare, it's not costing any taxpayer...you just don't think it's FAIR.  Like I tell my own children, why do you care what other people "get?"  My mother raised me the same way.  Life is not fair and other families can give their kids more than I can and other families don't have squat.  Many older adults would rather give their grown children money now, to be able to buy a car or feed their family or whatever it is they need as opposed to them getting it when they are dead.  Because they don't want their family members in a homeless shelter...oh how awful!!!!!

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 2:30pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p>Did you really just imply that poor people should give their children up for adoption?</p><p style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:x-small"><span>No</span></span></span></p>

Well then, you might wan to seriously reword your answer because that's how it reads.

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 2:34pm

Yes, things happen and yes, if you want to help support your family, that is your own choice. BUT.....giving this family is helping to feed and shelter this family BECAUSE she is not working. Not because they had a tragedy happen in their life. She decided to get pregnant without fully realizing that they could not afford another child at that time in their lives. 

Where does the line fall for you and how much would you support someone? What if she gets pregnant again because they were not cautious or just because she wants another child and knows that she can get the support from her family? 

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 2:36pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p>Yes, things happen and yes, if you want to help support your family, that is your own choice. BUT.....giving this family is helping to feed and shelter this family BECAUSE she is not working. Not because they had a tragedy happen in their life. She decided to get pregnant without fully realizing that they could not afford another child at that time in their lives. </p><p>Where does the line fall for you and how much would you support someone? What if she gets pregnant again because they were not cautious or just because she wants another child and knows that she can get the support from her family? </p>

Which you are you posting this to?  I have no idea if this is in response to me or not.

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
― Markus ZusakThe Book Thief

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 2:38pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p>Yes, things happen and yes, if you want to help support your family, that is your own choice. BUT.....giving this family is helping to feed and shelter this family BECAUSE she is not working. Not because they had a tragedy happen in their life. She decided to get pregnant without fully realizing that they could not afford another child at that time in their lives. </p><p>Where does the line fall for you and how much would you support someone? What if she gets pregnant again because they were not cautious or just because she wants another child and knows that she can get the support from her family? </p>

You are making huge assuptions and looking very foolish in doing so, you clearly missed the point of this article.

I don't know what my line in the sand is, I haven't drawn it yet.  But that's not really the point of the article, programs for helping sahms go back to work if they wish was the point of the article.

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 2:40pm
I don't think Spring understands the meaning of the word "universal."
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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 2:43pm

Which you are you posting this to?  I have no idea if this is in response to me or not.

You can answer it if you would like Laughing

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 2:43pm

bordwithyou wrote:
I don't think Spring understands the meaning of the word "universal."

Apparently her school district doesn't either.

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
― Markus ZusakThe Book Thief

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 2:44pm
What if she does get pregnant again and her family helps out? How is that any of your concern?
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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 2:44pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">Which you are you posting this to?  I have no idea if this is in response to me or not.</span></p><p><span style="font-size:small"><strong><span style="text-align:left">You can answer it if you would like <img src="/forums/sites/all/libraries/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-laughing.gif" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" border="0" /></span></strong></span></p>

Or you could put the posters name or use the quotes function.  This is a horrible format and I appreciate it when people say who they are responding to.

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
― Markus ZusakThe Book Thief

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