Opt out or left out?

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Mon, 05-13-2013 - 3:31pm

This article says that most SAH moms do so, because they can't afford to work (i.e. couldn't make enough to cover their childcare costs).  Or that their husband's income is in the top 5% of earners in the US.  So SAHMs are at the two extreme ends of income.  This seems to me to be pretty much what we've found through discussions on this board.  Do you think that there should be programs in place to make it easier for SAHMs in the lower income brackets to go back to work?  How could this be accomplished?

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/opt-out-or-left-out-economics-stay-home-moms-1C9881635

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:16pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Ok, so when you had posts back a ways talking about how some kind of program for preschool or daycare is in your area and that's (partly) why you have such high taxes...you were confused?  There is nothing?</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Ummm...no my taxes have NOTHING to do with daycare</span></strong></p>

Yet you kept answering the expanding employer daycare with, "I guess that's why my taxes are so high".

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 03-27-2013
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:17pm

<<All laughing aside...What is the connection between your property taxes and companies using their funds for daycare programs?  

I never said there WAS a connection. Not sure how that even came up. >>

You brought it up, kept saying that's why you pay such high taxes in your area.  I'm sure I quoted your comments in mine, perhaps if you read them?  

Here is an example:  springfever2013 wrote:

Are you not aware that these things ARE available already?

Do you understand the definition of the word "expanding"?  Because it indicates that 1) yes, I do know there are programs like this available (if something doesn't exist, it can't be expanded) and 2) I think there should be more of them, and they should cover more of the cost of childcare.

I guess it is not available in many other areas of the country. I guess that is why my taxes are so much higher. 

The majority of my homeowners taxes are for the schools, which include the Universal Pre-K, not daycare nor headstart.

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:17pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<blockquote><div style="font-weight:bold"><em><br />Springfever2013</em> wrote:</div>Really? You could live on that amount of money?</blockquote><p style="font-size:13px"></p><p style="font-size:13px">On the amount my DH makes?  Yes.  He works full time.  Sorry, you didn't have your spreadsheet updated.</p><p style="font-size:13px"><strong>Oh...wow...that much for full time? Sorry.</strong></p>

Really tacky of you spring, as are most of your personal attacks in this thread. 

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:18pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p>Your employer using your county property taxes to suplement their daycare facility?   </p><p><span style="font-size:x-small"><span>Maybe you should re-read my posts as I NEVER said my job has their OWN daycare facility.</span></span></p>
springfever2013 wrote:
<p>Your employer using your county property taxes to suplement their daycare facility?   </p><p><span style="font-size:x-small"><span>Maybe you should re-read my posts as I NEVER said my job has their OWN daycare facility.</span></span></p>

Perhaps you should reread your own comments and then my question?  You clearly are confused about what personal property taxes pay for and what they don't, lol.

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:19pm

<<Why would you think people send their kids at 4 to Kindergarten because they can't afford daycare? Our school year means you can be 4 until December 1st to start Kindergarten and that is when most kids go. My youngest has a later in the year bday and started K at the age of 4. >>

Because you had so many posts about being able to save money by not paying for daycare.


PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:19pm

Here's another example of talking about your employer and expanding the daycare programs that they have, that you have used.  You answer with that's why my taxes are so high.  

No, I mentioned that daycare HAS headstart. This is lower priced (than daycare) or free. My employer does NOT have a daycare. I said they contribute 25% towards daycare. My taxes are high for my SCHOOL. Daycare and headstart and NOT connected to my school district.

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:21pm

Perhaps you should reread your own comments and then my question?  You clearly are confused about what personal property taxes pay for and what they don't, lol.

Hmmm..I have my tax sheet right in front of me right now. Please explain how "confused" I am.

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:23pm

<<<<All laughing aside...What is the connection between your property taxes and companies using their funds for daycare programs?  

I never said there WAS a connection. Not sure how that even came up. >>

You brought it up, kept saying that's why you pay such high taxes in your area.  I'm sure I quoted your comments in mine, perhaps if you read them?  

Here is an example:  springfever2013 wrote:

Are you not aware that these things ARE available already?

Do you understand the definition of the word "expanding"?  Because it indicates that 1) yes, I do know there are programs like this available (if something doesn't exist, it can't be expanded) and 2) I think there should be more of them, and they should cover more of the cost of childcare.

I guess it is not available in many other areas of the country. I guess that is why my taxes are so much higher. 

The majority of my homeowners taxes are for the schools, which include the Universal Pre-K, not daycare nor headstart.>>

We weren't talking about homeowners taxes or your school districts version of "univesal" prek, the topic was clearly expanding childcare supported by employers, as you mentioned that your employers do.   Your "high taxes" had nothing to do with the conversation, yet you kept bringing them into the conversation, lol, as some kind of response.   

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:23pm

<<Why would you think people send their kids at 4 to Kindergarten because they can't afford daycare? Our school year means you can be 4 until December 1st to start Kindergarten and that is when most kids go. My youngest has a later in the year bday and started K at the age of 4. >>

Because you had so many posts about being able to save money by not paying for daycare.

Yes, daycare was a chunk of money at that time. It was something that was needed for the first 5 years of my children's lives. AND???

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:26pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Perhaps you should reread your own comments and then my question?  You clearly are confused about what personal property taxes pay for and what they don't, lol.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Hmmm..I have my tax sheet right in front of me right now. Please explain how "confused" I am.</span></strong></p>

Tax sheet, do you meant tax statement?  The conversation is about how to help sahm back to work with goverment supported daycare, such as your employer offers, which doesn't have anything to do with the type of taxes that support the local school district based on home value.  Why you keep bringing how high your taxes are (not sure why that is a brag due to lack of services, but whatever) into conversations about child care and head start is unclear.  Perhaps you would like to finally answer that question or would you like to engage yet another diversion?

PumpkinAngel

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