Opt out or left out?

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Opt out or left out?
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Mon, 05-13-2013 - 3:31pm

This article says that most SAH moms do so, because they can't afford to work (i.e. couldn't make enough to cover their childcare costs).  Or that their husband's income is in the top 5% of earners in the US.  So SAHMs are at the two extreme ends of income.  This seems to me to be pretty much what we've found through discussions on this board.  Do you think that there should be programs in place to make it easier for SAHMs in the lower income brackets to go back to work?  How could this be accomplished?

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/opt-out-or-left-out-economics-stay-home-moms-1C9881635

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Registered: 03-27-2013
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:16am

Why on earth would you truly think that about someone else's sex life and contraception?  I don't think there is anything out there that is 100% affective that doesn't involve sterilization.

I never said anything was 100% effective. Even if you don't follow the instructions of sterilization, you CAN get pregnant (know people who have). It can be quite close if used all the time, the correct way all the time. 

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:17am

springfever2013 wrote:
<blockquote><div style="font-weight:bold"><em>pringfever2013</em> wrote:</div>The only answer I have is to get yourself a good job BEFORE you have kids if you need 2 incomes. It is too late once you get pregnant and that is how the planning comes into place.</blockquote><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"></p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">Ah, the let them eat cake response.  And that worked so well for Marie Antoinette.</p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><strong><span style="font-size:small">In 2013, there are WAY too many options for a woman NOT to get pregnant before she can afford to. Yes, things happen but planning always outweighs getting stuck in a situation. If you are just getting by BEFORE you have kids, then you should know that you are going to have a VERY difficult job taking care of yourself AND a child. </span></strong></p>

List me one birth control method (outside of surgery) that is a 100% fool proof option.

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 03-27-2013
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:18am

<<Who would pay for these programs? The taxpayers for sure.>>

Do I need to point out that the people that would benefit from that type of program would also be....taxpayers?

How would I benefit?

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:19am

geschichtsgal wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">springfever2013</em> wrote:</div>Who would pay for these programs? The taxpayers for sure.</blockquote></p><p>Yes and/or employers.  I think it's a very good use of taxpayer dollars-- and probably would actually be a net gain, if employment would allow these families to rely less on other social programs.</p>

Well and those people going back to work would also pay taxes....they would become the taxpayers. 

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:20am
No spring, There's bcp options out there - if you're stupid enough to not follow the pill as directed just take the morning after thing after sex. That's available for 15 yos now, Our girls should know about this!

 


 


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Registered: 03-27-2013
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:25am

No spring, There's bcp options out there - if you're stupid enough to not follow the pill as directed just take the morning after thing after sex. That's available for 15 yos now, Our girls should know about this!

Oh, I am very aware of that. I was on the bcp for about 13 years (not adding in the time I tried to get pregnant (7 months with first, 6 months with second) and was pregnant. There is no reason to get pregnant in 2013 if you don't want to.

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Registered: 03-27-2013
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:26am

I don't get the "it was a surprise". If you are not using BC, it is no surprise that you COULD get pregnant. I think the amount of women that DO get pg using BC properly is MUCH lower than the total amount of women who actually get pg.

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:27am

<<There is subsidized daycare.  So many people frown upon that tho, How bad is it?  Do you know? >>

Who frowns upon subsidized daycare?


PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:31am

springfever2013 wrote:
<p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">&lt;&lt;<strong>Who would pay for these programs? The taxpayers for sure.&gt;&gt;</strong></p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><span style="font-size:x-small">Do I need to point out that the people that would benefit from that type of program would also be....taxpayers?</span></p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><span style="font-size:small"><strong>How would I benefit?</strong></span></p>

Ah it's all about you, how sad and small.  But really, simple logic....with more people in the work force and paying taxes, that equals more revenue for the variety of agencies that collect taxes from both the employee and the employer.  More funds go into social security, medicare, state and federal unemployment and possibly federal and state income taxes.  Plus they have more money to spend, that generates sales tax.  Plus needing more services creates more workers and the circle continues.

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:33am

<<We have Universal Pre-K too. It is a lotto and yes, it is a few hour thing too so not very doable with full time working families.>>

Why doesn't your school system value a preschool education for it's students?


PumpkinAngel

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