Opt out or left out?

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Mon, 05-13-2013 - 3:31pm

This article says that most SAH moms do so, because they can't afford to work (i.e. couldn't make enough to cover their childcare costs).  Or that their husband's income is in the top 5% of earners in the US.  So SAHMs are at the two extreme ends of income.  This seems to me to be pretty much what we've found through discussions on this board.  Do you think that there should be programs in place to make it easier for SAHMs in the lower income brackets to go back to work?  How could this be accomplished?

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/opt-out-or-left-out-economics-stay-home-moms-1C9881635

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:46pm
A friend of mine worked for a company that offered a kick back for childcare. That was Ohio.

 


 


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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:44pm

<<springfever2013 wrote:

<p><span style="font-size:13px">I think it should be funded through taxpayer dollars.</span></p><p><span style="font-size:small"><strong><span>May I ask how much you currently pay for your taxes? How much more are you willing to pay?</span></strong></span></p>

What type of taxes and if you are willing to ask, you should provide your own.

A lot >>

You realize that you are incorrectly comparing high property taxes (to cover the illegal apartments and their residents) to income taxes?  Progams that we are talking about are funded normally through federal and state grants, not personal property taxes.  

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:41pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Don't know, didn't care.  I'm talking about people who love blabbing about taxes so much, it doesn't always ensure quality does it?  Ggals' schools were higher than yours on this list.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Sorry your inlaws annoy you so much. That is great for her to get on the list so high. Again, I was not comparing the schools on that list. It is great to get on a top 2,000 list of all high schools in the country.</span></strong></p>

That isn't what the list shows, you didn't read the details correctly.

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:36pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<div style="border-bottom-color:#cccccc; border-bottom-width:1px; border-bottom-style:solid; font-size:13px"><div><div><div><p>How is that obvious?  Are you really trying to implie that teen pregnancies only happen to parents who aren't involved in their kids lives?</p></div><div><strong>Nope as I know (from my narrow view of life) some adults who got pregnant as teenagers and they had involved parents. It DOES happen BUT I do think the more you speak with your child about what is going on in their life, the more they will tell you. You need to have an open conversation that they don't feel embarassed (as you don't either) to ask or tell you anything. </strong></div></div></div></div>

It is a narrow view to think that nothing will change in the next years and that it will never happen to one's one child, either that or denial, pick one,.

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:33pm

<<Textbook talk?  And why are springs real life stories more accurate?  Well at least to you, especially when they are so limited?

I know it helps you to sleep to think my views and experiences are limited. It is so not true though and I think in many situations your views and experiences are much limited. >>

I'm sure you do think that, it would not surprise me at all, however that doesn't make it true.   All of your stories are pretty limited and so you just feel so sorry/sad/whatever/lollolololo for anyone or anything that is different.  It's really a limited point of view and the continued denial is just part of it.  Shrug.


PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:26pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<blockquote><div style="font-weight:bold"><em>springfever2013</em> wrote:</div>Your school taxes are not alot, correct?</blockquote><p style="font-size:13px"></p><p style="font-size:13px">They are high enough that the high school my kids will attend ranks higher than yours on the US News and World Reports ranking.  </p><p style="font-size:13px"><strong>That does NOT mean your school taxes are higher. I can assure you my school taxes ALONE are more than your ENTIRE home taxes. I don't think that makes a difference to make that list. But if it makes you feel better to attack me, go ahead. After all your dh's years of school (doesn't he have a master?) is he finally making some real money? </strong></p>

First, you might want to not attack someone when complaining about them attacking you, even when they weren't.  LoL. Second, bragging about high taxes on a school with lower results doesn't really sound very logical on your part, you know?  Third, I'm not sure I would be tossing out insults on spouses.

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:23pm

>It is, there are a thousands of children in the foster care system waiting to be adopted in the US, right now.  Friends of mine are a foster family and they have had numerous infants over the last couple of years, some staying longer than others, some going back to their parents and some being adopted.  I know a number of families who have adopted children in the US out of the foster care system.  </strong></span></p>[/quote]

That is how I got 2 of my nephews.

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:21pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">No I don't think she's trying to insult you...well maybe a little.  She is one of those parents who say, No, not MY daughter!  It will not happen because I know everything that goes on at all times &amp; that will never never change.  That kind of perception is not realistic and may even be delusional.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Nope, that is not me. I know things happen. It is my job to make sure I can do the BEST so it does NOT happen. I guess when the tax payers are paying for welfare and wic, it is easier just to let them have the child and profit on it.</span></strong></p>

How is it easier and how doesn't one profit from wic?

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:20pm

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thardy2001 wrote:
That's really the crux.  It then makes it much easier to ask for more money from the taxpayer.

Please, feel free to pick apart my ideas and opinions, but don't try to make my arguments look weak because I'm unwilling to share my financial information on this board.>>

Only a few will fall for that trick...no worries.

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:12pm

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springfever2013 wrote:
Ummm..I have as I know many companies that do that also. Unfortuntely, it sounds like many areas of the country do not offer enough for families. I guess that is why my taxes are so high. I also don't have to utilize a private school because of the bad conditions of my public schools.

My employer offers a child care benefit, and my kids will attend good public schools.>>

My public school with "bad conditions", you know because I use private school...has a full time preschool, lol.

PumpkinAngel

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