Opt out or left out?

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Mon, 05-13-2013 - 3:31pm

This article says that most SAH moms do so, because they can't afford to work (i.e. couldn't make enough to cover their childcare costs).  Or that their husband's income is in the top 5% of earners in the US.  So SAHMs are at the two extreme ends of income.  This seems to me to be pretty much what we've found through discussions on this board.  Do you think that there should be programs in place to make it easier for SAHMs in the lower income brackets to go back to work?  How could this be accomplished?

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/opt-out-or-left-out-economics-stay-home-moms-1C9881635

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:10pm

<<What do your high taxes have to do with something your employer offers?

Free Pre-K or Free Daycare teachers need to get paid. >>

Your employer using your county property taxes to suplement their daycare facility?   

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 09-01-2002
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:08pm

litlmiss_cantbewrong wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">springfever2013</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px"&gt;Headstart is what you are claiming your area has that helps raise your taxes so high?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px"&gt;Again, NO&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px"&gt;Did you know all states have that?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px"&gt;Yep&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px"&gt; Its federally funded too.  So why are your local taxes so high in relation to free preschool or daycare or whatever it is you are claiming (that other areas don't have).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px"&gt;My taxes are high for higher prices for everything, higher teachers salaries, etc. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Ok, so when you had posts back a ways talking about how some kind of program for preschool or daycare is in your area and that's (partly) why you have such high taxes...you were confused?  There is nothing?</p>

Somehow you confused things.  She never said she pays higher tax dollars in her state than you do in your state for a federally funded program. 

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:08pm

<Do you accompany your sons? My dd would be on bc. I am lucky to have a relationship with her that she would tell me as soon as things get that serious. >

Well as you so clearly pointed out in another post, bc is not 100%.   

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:07pm

chestnuthooligan wrote:
<p>&lt;<strong>You keep missing the point that the topic of debate isn't the women's life,  it's trying to help sahm go back to work&gt;</strong></p><p>This family's situation could be used as an example of why a simple investment in child care subsidies would put the taxpayer ahead. The husband makes 17hr ~ 35K a year<strong>. </strong>This woman needs 11hr for it to be worth while to work. A subsidy of 1.50hr @ 20hrs a week would give us a payroll tax payer, a family no longer eligible for EIC. By my calculation, the payroll tax she and her company would pay would more than cover a $1.50 subsidy.<strong></strong></p><p>But what do I know, I don't have a "wide view", I have a math-centered logical one.<strong><br /></strong></p>

...and that's the view I'm coming from as well.  Silly me...using math, logic and the basic knowledge of taxes to solve a problem.

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:07pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<blockquote><div style="font-weight:bold"><em>springfever2013</em> wrote:</div>Your school taxes are not alot, correct?</blockquote><p style="font-size:13px"></p><p style="font-size:13px">They are high enough that the high school my kids will attend ranks higher than yours on the US News and World Reports ranking.  </p><p style="font-size:13px"><strong>That does NOT mean your school taxes are higher. I can assure you my school taxes ALONE are more than your ENTIRE home taxes. I don't think that makes a difference to make that list. But if it makes you feel better to attack me, go ahead. After all your dh's years of school (doesn't he have a master?) is he finally making some real money? </strong></p>

Oh my. I'm so very sorry that you pay so much money for such poor schools. Frown  It's so sad when people pay thousands of dollars and their municipalities waste the money on poor schools and infrastructure.

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:06pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">I don't carry my family financially.  I could SAH if I wanted to based on my DH's salary.  We've actually discussed it fairly seriously recently, since we are planning on having more kids in the near future.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Really? You could live on that amount of money? <img src="/forums/sites/all/libraries/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-surprised.gif" alt="Surprised" title="Surprised" border="0" /></span></strong></p>

Word, my friend.  Word. Surprised

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:05pm

springfever2013 wrote:
Really? You could live on that amount of money?

On the amount my DH makes?  Yes.  He works full time.  Sorry, you didn't have your spreadsheet updated.

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:05pm

geschichtsgal wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">springfever2013</em> wrote:</div>May I ask how much you currently pay for your taxes? How much more are you willing to pay?</blockquote></p><p>I wouldn't mind paying more in taxes, but I would prefer to reallocate the taxes we currently pay (i.e. less military spending, more education funding)</p>

Agreed.

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:04pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Don't know, didn't care.  I'm talking about people who love blabbing about taxes so much, it doesn't always ensure quality does it?  Ggals' schools were higher than yours on this list.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Sorry your inlaws annoy you so much. That is great for her to get on the list so high. Again, I was not comparing the schools on that list. It is great to get on a top 2,000 list of all high schools in the country.</span></strong></p>

I have no clue what inlaws ahve to do with this.  You are the only one bringing up high taxes so much.  I never said my inlaws do.

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 8:04pm

My husband is a perpetual student. I fail to see how that's a bad thing.

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