Opt out or left out?

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Mon, 05-13-2013 - 3:31pm

This article says that most SAH moms do so, because they can't afford to work (i.e. couldn't make enough to cover their childcare costs).  Or that their husband's income is in the top 5% of earners in the US.  So SAHMs are at the two extreme ends of income.  This seems to me to be pretty much what we've found through discussions on this board.  Do you think that there should be programs in place to make it easier for SAHMs in the lower income brackets to go back to work?  How could this be accomplished?

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/opt-out-or-left-out-economics-stay-home-moms-1C9881635

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:27pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Here's another example of talking about your employer and expanding the daycare programs that they have, that you have used.  You answer with that's why my taxes are so high.  </span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">No, I mentioned that daycare HAS headstart. This is lower priced (than daycare) or free. My employer does NOT have a daycare. I said they contribute 25% towards daycare. My taxes are high for my SCHOOL. Daycare and headstart and NOT connected to my school district.</span></strong></p>

So again, your taxes have nothing to do with the conversation of childcare and head start.  Your school district is not and was not relevant to the discussion, expand the view a bit.

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 03-27-2013
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:28pm

Tax sheet, do you meant tax statement?  The conversation is about how to help sahm back to work with goverment supported daycare, such as your employer offers, which doesn't have anything to do with the type of taxes that support the local school district based on home value.  Why you keep bringing how high your taxes are (not sure why that is a brag due to lack of services, but whatever) into conversations about child care and head start is unclear.  Perhaps you would like to finally answer that question or would you like to engage yet another diversion?

I did answer it, several times.

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:28pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p style="font-size:13px">&lt;&lt;Why would you think people send their kids at 4 to Kindergarten because they can't afford daycare? Our school year means you can be 4 until December 1st to start Kindergarten and that is when most kids go. My youngest has a later in the year bday and started K at the age of 4. &gt;&gt;</p><p style="font-size:13px">Because you had so many posts about being able to save money by not paying for daycare.</p><p style="font-size:13px"><strong>Yes, daycare was a chunk of money at that time. It was something that was needed for the first 5 years of my children's lives. AND???</strong></p><p style="font-size:13px"></p>

...and nothing, I answered your question. 

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:29pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Tax sheet, do you meant tax statement?  The conversation is about how to help sahm back to work with goverment supported daycare, such as your employer offers, which doesn't have anything to do with the type of taxes that support the local school district based on home value.  Why you keep bringing how high your taxes are (not sure why that is a brag due to lack of services, but whatever) into conversations about child care and head start is unclear.  Perhaps you would like to finally answer that question or would you like to engage yet another diversion?</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:x-small"><span>I did answer it, several times.</span></span></strong></p>

Right, it has nothing to do with the discussion, you did answer that. 

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 03-27-2013
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:30pm

So again, your taxes have nothing to do with the conversation of childcare and head start.  Your school district is not and was not relevant to the discussion, expand the view a bit.

I never said that daycare and head start WAS associated with my taxes. How many more times can I say this?

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Registered: 03-27-2013
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:31pm

Right, it has nothing to do with the discussion, you did answer that. 

Nothing to do tonight PKA? 

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:34pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">So again, your taxes have nothing to do with the conversation of childcare and head start.  Your school district is not and was not relevant to the discussion, expand the view a bit.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">I never said that daycare and head start WAS associated with my taxes. How many more times can I say this?</span></strong></p>

Actually you did, I quoted it numerous times.

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:36pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Right, it has nothing to do with the discussion, you did answer that. </span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Nothing to do tonight PKA? </span></strong></p>

Wow, again with the personal comments about me.  I'm sorry that you feel so upset that you have to attack with insults instead of debating the topic.

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 03-27-2013
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:39pm
springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Right, it has nothing to do with the discussion, you did answer that. </span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Nothing to do tonight PKA? </span></strong></p>

Wow, again with the personal comments about me.  I'm sorry that you feel so upset that you have to attack with insults instead of debating the topic.

No, I just seem to have to defend myself on this board lately, mostly from a few people (one who attacked me (or should I say my child and my dh) tonight). 

There is NO debate left. Think it is time to move on. Maybe you can start a fluff or something Laughing

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 05-14-2013 - 10:45pm

<<No, I just seem to have to defend myself on this board lately, mostly from a few people (one who attacked me (or should I say my child and my dh) tonight). 

There is NO debate left. Think it is time to move on. Maybe you can start a fluff or something >>

Nobody attacked either one tonight, you however threw quite a number of stones.  There is plenty of debate left, try looking and debating the comments instead of attacking others and a knee jerk reaction to being wrong.

PumpkinAngel

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