Opt out or left out?

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Mon, 05-13-2013 - 3:31pm

This article says that most SAH moms do so, because they can't afford to work (i.e. couldn't make enough to cover their childcare costs).  Or that their husband's income is in the top 5% of earners in the US.  So SAHMs are at the two extreme ends of income.  This seems to me to be pretty much what we've found through discussions on this board.  Do you think that there should be programs in place to make it easier for SAHMs in the lower income brackets to go back to work?  How could this be accomplished?

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/opt-out-or-left-out-economics-stay-home-moms-1C9881635

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:56am

It's sad to be self centered and think, what's my benefit even when there is clearly a benefit.  Your questions have nothing to do with the topic at hand, we are talking about someone who wants to go back to work, did you miss that point somewhere while basking in the glow of what's in it for me?

I am not self centered. If I was, I would have had kids whenever I felt like it, not thinking about them or of society that would have had to pay for them.  I see that she wants to work. She should have thought of that when she planned her 2nd child and was only making $9.50/hour and CLEARLY knew she could not afford daycare on that amount of money.

There are a lot of things that I mind that happen in society, people wanting to go back to work is simply not one of them, so why is it yours?

See my post above


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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 11:58am

I bet it is especially annoying to subsidize families who roll their consumer credit card debt into their mortgages, and get a bigger mortgage interest tax break.

You do realize that people refinance for many different reasons, right, not for just consumer credit card debt? What would be the difference then?

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 12:08pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
No spring, There's bcp options out there - if you're stupid enough to not follow the pill as directed just take the morning after thing after sex. That's available for 15 yos now, Our girls should know about this!

Do you plan to buy plan B pills for your girls, then? Or is that option just for the little people?

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 12:14pm

"Do you plan to buy plan B pills for your girls, then? Or is that option just for the little people?" -------- As far as I know, Catholics can't use most birth control (all?). So I assume that they have to stay celibate if they are done having kids, but still fertile.

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 12:17pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">&lt;&lt;<strong>We have Universal Pre-K too. It is a lotto and yes, it is a few hour thing too so not very doable with full time working families.&gt;&gt;</strong></p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><span style="font-size:x-small">Why doesn't your school system value a preschool education for it's students?</span></p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><span style="font-size:small"><strong>They do, that is why they offer this. Does your school offer Universal Pre-K to EVERYONE? How much are your school taxes?</strong></span></p>

Having a lotto based part time program doesn't really show support for prek, imo.  Yes and none of your business.  The prek (full, part time and special ed) is fee based with exceptions of course for tutition.  

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 12:18pm

The only really good reason to refinance a mortgage is to get a interest lower rate. Any other reason, e.g., consolidating debt, cashing out for home improvements or other unplanned expenses is debious in a housing market that can contract, and squeeze value from the home.

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 12:19pm

<<Why is it not logical? Women are getting pregnant every.single.day who don't plan to. >>

Your agrument is not logical, if conception is not 100% effective than you truly thinking that people are using it wrong is not logical.  And well, odd.


PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 12:20pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p>http://www.statisticbrain.com/birth-control-statistics/</p><p><strong>Birth Control Statistics</strong>Total Number of U.S. Women in their childbearing years62 millionPercent of women who get pregnant while on the pill6 %Percent of people who rely on male condoms that will remain pregnancy free85 %Total percentage of men who use a condom the first time they have sex80%Total percentage of women who use a condom the first time they have sex68%Total percent of U.S. births that are from mothers younger than 1910%Total Number of U.S. women in childbearing years that use some form of contraception62%<em>Among those who don’t, 31% are pregnant, trying to get pregnant, postpartum, sterile or not sexually active. The other 7% take their chances. Among those using contraceptives, here’s what they use:</em><strong>Contraceptive</strong><strong>Percent Used</strong>The Pill28%Sterilization27.1%Condom16.1%Vasectomy9.9%IUD5.5%</p><p>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_get_pregnant_while_using_birth_control</p><p style="border:0px; color:#0e2233; font-family:'Open Sans', arial, sans-serif">Birth control refers to all kinds of contraception.</p><p style="border:0px; color:#0e2233; font-family:'Open Sans', arial, sans-serif"></p><ul><li>Diaphragms: 14 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Cervical caps: 16 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Leah's shield: 15 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>The Combination Pill: 8 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Male condoms: 15 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Female condoms: 21 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Contraceptive Implant: less than one out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Contraceptive Patch: 8 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Depo-Provera: 8 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Fertility Awareness: 20 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>IUD: less than one out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Minipills: 10 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Spermicide: 29 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>The Sponge: 16 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Vaginal Ring: 8 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li><li>Withdarwal: 27 out of every 100 women will become pregnant</li></ul>

Thank you!

PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 12:23pm

<<It's sad to be self centered and think, what's my benefit even when there is clearly a benefit.  Your questions have nothing to do with the topic at hand, we are talking about someone who wants to go back to work, did you miss that point somewhere while basking in the glow of what's in it for me?

I am not self centered. If I was, I would have had kids whenever I felt like it, not thinking about them or of society that would have had to pay for them.  I see that she wants to work. She should have thought of that when she planned her 2nd child and was only making $9.50/hour and CLEARLY knew she could not afford daycare on that amount of money.

There are a lot of things that I mind that happen in society, people wanting to go back to work is simply not one of them, so why is it yours?

See my post above>>

Which is about birth control....which has about as much to do with this conversation as your questions as I mentioned.  People want to go back to work, why is that a problem with you?




PumpkinAngel

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Tue, 05-14-2013 - 12:23pm

rollmops2009 wrote:
As far as I know, Catholics can't use most birth control (all?). So I assume that they have to stay celibate if they are done having kids, but still fertile.

Oh, that's right. 

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