Parental Leave

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-23-2003
Parental Leave
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Tue, 05-12-2009 - 2:09pm

Okay I have some honest questions.

iVillage Member
Registered: 12-31-2008
Fri, 05-15-2009 - 1:25pm

>>Yes it comes out in tax money.

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-23-2003
Fri, 05-15-2009 - 1:50pm

Yes taxes are higher but that to me would be offset by the fact that employers have eliminated health care and disability insurance as a cost.


Also yes I agree that taking family leave is a personal decision.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-21-2001
Fri, 05-15-2009 - 3:35pm

Choosing it or not, recovering from a C-section or recovering from childbirth is like recovering from surgery.

FMLA applies to more than just childbirth. Sure, men and women (both are eligible) choose to have children. They all choose to marry smokers (who get cancer and have to go through chemo), marry rock-climbers (who fall, break their back, and need constant care), etc. Covered all by a special tax. Which I suppose, you could make "optional", but then when the folks who weren't paying it needed it because of a sick relative, all heck would break loose.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-25-2008
Fri, 05-15-2009 - 5:50pm
Actually, I'm talking about parental leave policies not recovery times.
iVillage Member
Registered: 02-22-2007
Fri, 05-15-2009 - 6:02pm

My state's State Disability Insurance is entirely funded by employee contributions. Employers do not share in the cost.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 12-31-2008
Sat, 05-16-2009 - 7:58am

>>Yes taxes are higher but that to me would be offset by the fact that employers have eliminated health care and disability insurance as a cost.<<


Possibly yes, possibly no. Employers are not required to offer health insurance in most states. We, as employer's, directly to pay into worker's comp, but that is only if they are injured on the job.


A couple weeks ago, I got into a discussion with some ppl about social benefits, in general, in the United States. The problem is our system is so different from other countries, it would take a huge overhaul to make this work. In general, I wouldn't say parental leave is a bad idea, but then again, I would have to evaluate how it effects the whole system and what other benefits and programs would be cut to make this benefit possible.


>>Also you figure if a person works 30 years and pay into this fund for that amount of time what is 1 year off with a baby?

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-25-2008
Sat, 05-16-2009 - 12:35pm

But it doesn't matter if you do or don't take time off with your kiddos.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-22-2005
Sat, 05-16-2009 - 8:55pm

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For what it's worth, I understand what you're saying here.

Recovery from childbirth is a medical issue and the time off given is for medical reasons. Anyone may take off for medical recovery, so it's fair. Once a person has recovered, though, employees must return to work.

It's not fair to say "Staying home longer for purely personal preference reasons is unacceptable to all employees EXCEPT those who just had a child."

Maybe there should be something like Personal Enrichment Leave. A person can accumulate time and then use it to stay home with their kids, or travel the world, or take some college classes, or just veg in front of the TV - however they choose to spend it. Similar to vacation days, but more long-term and with a very small number of times that it can be taken.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 02-07-2009
Sat, 05-16-2009 - 10:35pm

I was thinking something along the same lines.

Since the average family is now about 2 kids. Allow everyone those two years. When someone gets to the age where they probably would not need maternity/paternity leave (say 50) if they still have time left from their allotted two years than they can use it for whatever they want.

iVillage Member
Registered: 01-05-2000
Sun, 05-17-2009 - 11:11am

Here's a website explaining the CA family leave act. http://www.paidfamilyleave.org/

What is California's Paid Family Leave Program?

Workers who participate in the State Disability Insurance (SDI) Program are entitled to a maximum of six weeks of partial pay each year while taking time off from work to:

* Bond with a newborn baby, adopted or foster child
(both parents)

* Care for a seriously ill parent, child, spouse or registered domestic partner

Most workers will receive approximately 55% of their pre-taxed weekly wage, up to a maximum of $917 while on leave.

The Paid Family Leave Program is administered by the State of California Employment Development Department (EDD) a state agency, not the employer.

And here is a state website with more links: http://www.orim.dgs.ca.gov/FMLA/default.htm

I find it very fair to those employees who pay into it. I don't qualify because I don't pay into it. And dh couldn't use it to take care of his mother because he didn't quit working all together while caring for her but only reduced his hours.

Chris

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