Public Housing

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Public Housing
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Sun, 07-27-2003 - 8:17am
The nerve of some people amazes me. President Bush is setting up a federal plan that would require anyone in Public Housing that doesn't have a job or isn't disabled to give back 8 hours to the community per month. I think this is a great idea, although I think 8 hours a month is not enough. Our local news stations went to the projects to interview people about it, here is what they said "I think this is ridiculous, I ain't workin for nothin" and "Who do they think they are thinking I am going to work for them" and "I think this is racist".

My blood was about to boil after listening to these idiots. Working for free? No, try working for the place you live in and don't pay for. Racist? Are you saying that only black people live in public housing? I think this is the least they can do since I am working to pay for their damn house.

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Registered: 05-02-2003
Sun, 07-27-2003 - 8:30am
I will have to agree on this. In fact it should be about 16 hours a week doing something for the community. The whole welfare and public housing isue just pisses me off. I have been poor. I have been a single mother supporting myself. Granted I was educated but I made it work. You just have to try and do it. Granted not all those in that situation are loosers...but many are?

And the racist comment is just due to ignorance.

Blech, people suck.

Blondie

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Sun, 07-27-2003 - 9:21am
Personally, I'd like to see more than 8 hours a month. That's getting off easy if you ask me considering what they're getting. What does 8 hours a month in return for housing, food and utilities paid work out to?? Likely a lot more than a hundred dollars an hour!!!! What are they complaining about?
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 07-27-2003 - 9:50am
Might I add that a good majority of these people live there ILLEGALLY? My DH is a cop. I can't tell you the numerous amount of women that live in public housing that have their *baby daddy* live with them. It is ridiculous. They complain about the living conditions in the public housing communities here all the time. YET very few want to do anything about it. I say they should have to do at least 20 hours per month cleaning, and repairing and planting flowers in these communities to make them look better, and have better living conditions.
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Registered: 03-25-2003
Sun, 07-27-2003 - 10:10am
Although I have no problem with an expectation of 'sweat equity', public housing isn't exactly 'free' (at least not in most cases). If it were, I doubt the US would have the homeless problem that we have.

For more info on public housing:

http://www.hud.gov/renting/phprog.cfm

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 07-27-2003 - 10:29am
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Pretty much so it is. Where I live the just built a brand new housing neighborhood. It looks just like a brand new apartment complex, and is very nice. The people that live there pay $50 a month rent. They receive welfare, and food stamps, and get public transportation free. They also receive free child care if needed. The welfare system gives them an additional $30 per month if they live in public housing to help with their rent. So basically our tax dollars pay for their food, their transportation, and all but $20 of their rent.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 07-27-2003 - 10:35am
wow, 8 whole hours a month? gee what a motivational tool there. and the racism part just pissed me off! everytime you turn around there is someone screaming racism about something that effects us all!


grrrrrrr

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Registered: 04-25-2003
Sun, 07-27-2003 - 10:49am
I think they should do something for us middle class citizens who having been supporting their baby-making butts for years. How about making them use any free time they have got?
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Registered: 03-25-2003
Sun, 07-27-2003 - 11:01am
It's not that cut and dry. . .everything you mentioned is based upon income guidelines for eligibility AND benefits.

In my area, families making 200% of the federal poverty level (based upon family size and location) may qualify for public housing. Section 8's guidelines are 127% of poverty. Rent is based on 30 % of adjusted gross income minus HUD allowable deductions OR a minimum rent of $50.00.

Child care assistance in my area is for families at 185% or below the poverty level and their family fee is on a sliding scale.

TANF is for families at 100% of poverty and benefits vary on level that city is assigned and family situation.

Food stamps and Energy assistance is for families at or below 130% of poverty level.

So what is poverty level?

In the 48 contiguous states,

100% of poverty for a family of 1 is $8,980; for a family of 2- $12,120; family of 3- $15,260; family of 4- $18,400; family of 5- $21,540.

Let me put this into perspective for you further. If my husband were to leave me (or vice versa) and NOT pay child support, meaning that my income were the only income for our household. My children and I would qualify for reduced lunches for my children at school, assistance with child care costs, and would be eligible for public housing (not Section 8, but housing). I have a BSE in early childhood education AND am half-way through with my Masters.

I would miss the cut off for a medical card for my 2 yo, free lunches, food stamps, and energy assistance by less than 6%.

Again, I DON'T have a problem with sweat equity, but unless you know the financial situation of every family in that housing area. . .don't assume you know what they're getting. . .

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Sun, 07-27-2003 - 11:08am
That's one heck of a generalization there. . .hmmmm, maybe the remark about 'racism' on the news report was off base, but I'd say there's some definite prejudice in your statement.

You don't know WHY families may need assistance. And while I'm not advocating making a 'life' off of the system, I have NO problem with helping to provide assistance for those families that may need it for the short term.

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Registered: 12-12-2002
Sun, 07-27-2003 - 11:33am
Thanks..you said what I was thinking WAY better than I could have. :)

Okmrsmommy-36, CPmom to DD-16 and DS-14

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