Rock and a Hard Place

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Registered: 11-12-2003
Rock and a Hard Place
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Thu, 11-20-2003 - 10:45am

There's something on this board that has been bothering me, and I hope I can articulate it.

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Registered: 08-29-2002
Mon, 12-01-2003 - 11:38am
As long as you keep in mind that he may continue to not be comfortable on his tricycle even if you give him enough opportunities for practicing. Sometimes the problem is not opportunity or the amount of practice but an internal fear or unwillingness to learn at that point....and it may not be worth pushing him on it as you may find he fights the idea even more. Knowing that a 4 year old is capable of riding a tricycle and can enjoy it is a good thing and you can think that it is good to give him opportunities to do this as well. Expecting him to accomplish what the other kids have given enough opportunities may not work as well as one would think.

Laura

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 12-01-2003 - 11:48am

"I did not think any less of him or any better of him if he rode early, late or on time....he did it when he was ready."


But did you or did you not actively encourage him to spend time on his bike?


It's not that I think less of him because he's less coordinated than his playmates.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 12-01-2003 - 11:50am
But at some point you need to understand if that effort

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 12-01-2003 - 11:53am

"Expecting him to accomplish what the other kids have given enough opportunities may not work as well as one would think."


If he can't, he can't.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Mon, 12-01-2003 - 12:04pm
Yes! There are plenty of people out there who make a lot of money and have no education-and I think they tend to place LESS value on education because *they made it* without one.

There are many factors that relate to SES. I just dont think one can make a blanket statement that *woh is generally better because it impacts SES, and higher ses is better*, because there are too many factors involved for it to BE *generally* ANYTHING.

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Dj

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Registered: 11-20-2001
Mon, 12-01-2003 - 12:15pm

ITA.

 

Linda - wife, mother, grandmum                     &nb

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Mon, 12-01-2003 - 12:17pm

I think that is where you are wrong in a way.

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Mon, 12-01-2003 - 12:24pm

Sure it is setting the kids (and parents) up for disaster.

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Mon, 12-01-2003 - 12:31pm

But I don't think reading to the class makes her stand out like a sore thumb.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 12-01-2003 - 12:53pm
I'm going to respectfully disagree with your blanket statement: <>

As a consultant myself, I have met a number of other consultants who aren't "formally educated" but who highly value education.

A couple of years ago I was listening to Paul Harvey on the radio. He did a very nice piece on six or eight very successful people from about 100 or so years ago. I forget who they all were. He read eight stories about these very successful people -- none of them were formerly educated but all went on to do great things. Each time he introduced a new person, he would say, "And this person had the same trait in common as XX, XX, XX." All eight of these people, uneducated as they were, had one thing in common:

They each founded a university -- and all eight of them are our most prestigious universities.

What bothers me about the high SES debate is that I have met "low SES" families and have seen their children come out as good as or better than their high SES counterparts. Money doesn't guarantee anything -- just like SAH or WOH doesn't guarantee anything either.

Like everything else associated with this debate -- it's the parenting. And even that doesn't guarantee anything.

outside_the_box_mom

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