Rock and a Hard Place

iVillage Member
Registered: 11-12-2003
Rock and a Hard Place
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Thu, 11-20-2003 - 10:45am

There's something on this board that has been bothering me, and I hope I can articulate it.

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Registered: 04-17-2003
Tue, 11-25-2003 - 12:51pm
Actually, yes, there is a lot more to ses than $. It is quite possible for two high school dropout factory workers to make more money than two social workers, both of whom have masters degrees, yet no one would argue that the social workers are lower ses than the factory workers. Considering how much you love to tout the better ses of wohms, you would do well to understand exactly what it involves.

I would also seriously question the professionalism of a teacher who engages in petty gossip about her students' families. That alone would lead me to question the quality of the school.

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Registered: 07-02-2003
Tue, 11-25-2003 - 1:40pm
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ITA! I was appalled by that post. I can't imagine a teacher spouting off such garbage. More evidence of the peculiar neighbourhood CLW lives in.

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Registered: 07-02-2003
Tue, 11-25-2003 - 1:44pm
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But, it CHANGES the hard wiring that is taking place. The amount of time spent is irrelevent if this research is valid. It doesn't wreck, destroy or disable hardwiring b/c the hard wiring is occurring. To me it simply isn't worth the risk. It is probably already too late for my ds. Thankfully dd hasn't shown any interest in the pc. To wean my son from the pc I am limiting his use to Sundays for 20 minutes. I bought him a toy pc that has an lcd display which is supposed to be less damaging.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-25-2003
Tue, 11-25-2003 - 1:50pm

In that situation, then it would be fine.

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Registered: 03-28-2003
Tue, 11-25-2003 - 4:09pm
My income helps ends meet, but it doesn't move us into a higher SES.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Tue, 11-25-2003 - 4:35pm

Your "socio" status won't change, but surely the economics do.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 11-23-2003
Tue, 11-25-2003 - 5:11pm
She wasn't engaging in petty gossip by a long shot. We were given a pareto chart to see where our kids were compared to the class. I asked her why so many were off the bottom of the chart and she told me that half the kids who start kindergarten haven't been read to. I couldn't tell you which half of the class that would be. She was, simply, answering my question not gossiping. I asked because I thought it was odd that so many kids would miss identifying more than 35 letters when tested on them and still do. You'd think a child starting kindy could at least identify the capitol letters. My dd was up with the group that did things like mix up b, d, p and q.

It is not unusual for teachers to hand parents charts that show where their children are with respect to the rest of the class nor would it be considered gossiping for a teacher to explain a gap like this one in the class. There was one cluster right around 8 missed and then you dropped straight off to more than 35 missed. Dd#2 was the only child in the class this year to miss none. I know that because on the chart there's only one child at zero and I have her test which has her missing zero.

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-02-2003
Tue, 11-25-2003 - 6:22pm
That is very surprising. Over half the kids in my ds's K class are reading. We have an excellent early literacy program in this community - it strives to reach at risk kids and does a great job. I know from parent volunteering in my son's class that there are a couple of kids who don't know their letters yet, but there are no comparisons done EVER. I can't imagine charting who is where in K! That does not sound like a good school. Why the need to compare kids?
iVillage Member
Registered: 11-23-2003
Tue, 11-25-2003 - 7:25pm
They were not charted by name. The chart was to let the parents know where their child is with regard to the rest of the class. Perhaps they're hoping that the parents who aren't reading to their kids will start when they see their child clustered at the bottom of the class.
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Registered: 11-23-2003
Tue, 11-25-2003 - 7:27pm
I don't live in a low income neighborhood.

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