Rock and a Hard Place

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Registered: 11-12-2003
Rock and a Hard Place
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Thu, 11-20-2003 - 10:45am

There's something on this board that has been bothering me, and I hope I can articulate it.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 11-26-2003 - 4:08pm

"Okay so what if he's too challenged by that peer group."

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 11-26-2003 - 4:11pm
But a chart or other visual aid is just one tool to assist in the overall evaluation.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 07-02-2003
Wed, 11-26-2003 - 4:11pm
I would know. As I said, I am well aware of the academic level of the kids in my son's class by virtue of volunteering in the class regularly. Again, I wouldn't need a visual aide to *show* me that. While I may find it interesting to know, I am not sure that it would be of any true benefit.
iVillage Member
Registered: 05-28-2003
Wed, 11-26-2003 - 4:12pm
OK. Maybe I'm confused here, but are these "charts" that we are talking about posted in the classroom somewhere with the childrens' names? I didn't think so. I thought it was available for the *parents* to try to improve the education process. If the charts are for the parents and if the parents aren't so dumb to say to their kid "johnny, look how low you rank in your class. Better get your butt in gear!" then I don't see how you won't still have that cooperative learning environment you describe.

BTW, your last sentence speaks about how a child should be raised to be a good *person.* Being "competitive" doesn't prevent you from being a good person.
iVillage Member
Registered: 06-27-1998
Wed, 11-26-2003 - 4:14pm
YEP!

PumpkinAngel

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-02-2003
Wed, 11-26-2003 - 4:14pm
Very very well said. You have beautifully said what I have been trying to convey. Thank you!
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 11-26-2003 - 4:15pm
But your child is going to school every day with that "small sample size."

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iVillage Member
Registered: 07-02-2003
Wed, 11-26-2003 - 4:16pm
I am quite certain that ds's buddy's parents are well aware of their son's abilities. Come on, don't you know what your kids know and don't know? Do you need to see them on a graph with other kids to really understand what level they are at? I don't.
iVillage Member
Registered: 05-28-2003
Wed, 11-26-2003 - 4:18pm
Sure, it would be better to gather the data for several years and use that as the measure as you suggested, but ...

1. I still think it's useful to use the data for that particular school rather than for the entire school district (or worse, for the country) for the reasons I said before.

2. I wonder who will take on the job of gathering and analyzing that data for years and years. They'd have to hire a research assistant just to do that! LOL!
iVillage Member
Registered: 06-27-1998
Wed, 11-26-2003 - 4:18pm

Right on all accounts.

PumpkinAngel

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