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Roles of the parent.
| Tue, 03-07-2006 - 3:29am |
I think in the old days men use to tell women the what to do, or what not to do. Today we let other women tell us what is right for us. I have never seen two situations that are the same in any relationship. The roles are changing as we type right now. Women use to think it was worth it to spend as much time at home with their children as time would give them. However, that is not the case today. It is all very sad if you ask me because you have some men that are saying "I will stay home for the kids", and at the same time the women opt not too.I have three girls, the oldest is 8 and the youngest is 3 months , each child has a four yr space. Some parents need duel incomes. I think as children get older it is okay to get work outside the house, but as they are growing and learning new things I would like to see that for myself if I can. I have another year of college and then I will have to work, and I am not looking forward to it. The idea of being away from my children is scary to me. I find it hard to even let them go outside and play. However, I am getting better with it. Both my parents worked, and I recalled how much I wanted to be with my mom. I would have been happy just to go to Walmarts with her, but she never really had the time. It is not a matter of what is right or wrong, but what is the need of the family? Can a family make it on one check? That depends on the location, the home, car, and the life style that the parents want to have. Some could say if you want to be safe, you both have to pay because safe comes with a high price tag. Others could say different. The truth is stay at home moms are on the downfall due to the different types of families today. Is it bad or good, I do not know. However, I can tell you it is life.

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My dd is a freshmen this year, living in the dorms. It is an experience like no other! She has grown in so many ways. I am so glad that she is having this experience.
We have a number of good colleges within commuting distance from our home but she would have missed out on so much had she decided to stay at home. Nothing bonds you with new friends like rolling out of bed in the middle of the night when someone pulls the fire alarm, lol.
Robin
Definitely makes sense. I have witnessed a lot of the WOO-HOO attitude, lol.
Robin
My nephew is a pretty responsible young man, he dropped two classes during his first year of college, on mom and dad's dime. He was told that he would be responsible for the cost of any classes he dropped in the future. He never dropped a class again. IMO, when you have to fork over the dough yourself it makes you think twice before wasting money.
Robin
I never said that a child isn't grateful if a parent foots the bill for college. My dd has always been a very responsible, ambitious person. I am certainly not worried that she is not grateful for the portion of her education that we are paying for. IMO, it is to her benefit to invest in her future. She works a very pt job during the school year and she will work during the summer. I would never expect her to pay all of her college bills and work fulltime while in school, but a think it is a plus for her to contribute financially to her education.
Robin
Edited 3/12/2006 7:03 am ET by debbiemom2girls
Very little. It doesn't matter what you hear if it doesn't make sense to you. Some things are understood based on what you already know. If you don't know enough, you won't get them. This is especially true in math ane science.
They may pick up a term here or there but I wouldn't call that an efficiency. Knowing what an integral looks like and understanging how it works are two totally different things. Hearing an older child's history lesson may give them a mental picture of something but did it teach it to them in any way? Probably not. It's just a commercial for what is to come.
If there is an efficiency here, it's a very small one. The only kids I know that this seems to work at all with is gifted kids. My daughter is in a gifted class that is multilevel and, to a certain extent, this is what they do, however, these are gifted kids. This tactic does not work with her sister (who is no slouch herself). We tried it once. We put her into a split class thinking that there were efficiencies and the stuff she saw with the older kids that year would help her the next year. Nope. The whole experience hurt her because the teacher didn't devote as much time on her level.
I would say no to significant efficiencies unless you are dealing with extraordinary children. It does seem to work with the gifted kids. The logic of exposing them to the later material (and we're not talking calculus in 3rd grade) is that it's not known what their learning curve is and it's better to give them the benefit of a doubt. My daughter is in the middle grade in this class she is both awed by what she's going to learn and what her younger peers are learning. She spent last year in a public school which simply didn't care that she is gifted. As far as they were concerned, she was one less child to worry about because she started the year well beyond where they expected her to finish it.
The efficiences in home schooling lie in kids being able to work at their own pace but this shouldn't be an efficiency when you consider that kids should simply move forward where they learn fast. It shoudln't result in more time, just more material learned. Honestly, I can't see home schooling and not capitalizing on this. Why stop at grade level when the child learned what was intended in half the time? Why not go on and dig deeper? IMO, it should take just as long to home school as it does to traditional school the difference should be the depth of learning.
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Don't worry about me. We live where we live because of the excellent schools. So, we're good.
And I'm very much informed about the chances that my children may have an IQ similar to DH, his siblings, his father, his grandfather, etc. You are not the only informed parent. But you do stand alone in your posts as being extremely frustrated and disappointed in the inabilitiy of your schools to adequately educate the gifted. If you want to talk about hostility and damage to the unchallenged child, you just might want to read your posts again. Where the gifted child <> is when the parents are at one and the same time very vocal in their frustration and criticism of absolutely everybody else in the world, yet choose to do nothing to solve the problem.
"yet choose to do nothing to solve the problem"
You can't possibly be referring to me personally. You would know very little about what I have chosen to do to "solve the problem" unless you know where I live and have been following me around.
I am glad you have faith in your excellent schools. I think you do not understand that there are students whose needs are such that they still have trouble having their educational needs met in an excellent school district no matter how FABULOUS the school district is. (In fact, in my informal survey of parents who have highly gifted students, the ones most frustrated with the actions of their local schools toward accomodating their children are the ones in the most prestigious, most acclaimed school districts. Those school districts--in spite of providing an excellent education to the majority-- seem to have the attitude as not needing to accomodate this population because "everyone loves us, we can't do anything wrong.") Oftentimes, you won't know what can go wrong until it does go wrong. Your children are still young and you do not have the benefit of experience on your side.
I am disengaging. I am living a life where accomodating the educational needs of three of my four children is a major task of my everyday life and I don't appreciate your attitude. You post like a troll and I don't find debating with you enjoyable. I have a lot to offer to people who are interested in learning about gifted education and I don't think I should use my time and knowledge debating with a close-minded relatively inexperienced parent.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend.
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