SAH doesn't support change,

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SAH doesn't support change,
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Sat, 08-26-2006 - 4:58pm

"SAH doesn't support change, it supports going backwards to the 1950's,"

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I wholeheartedly disagree. To me, SAH is a choice. How is that going back to the 1950s, when a lot of women didn't have much of a choice.

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 12:01pm
13 and 17.

Sabina


Sabina

Oh, life is a glorious cycle of song,

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 12:03pm
I don't think cell phones are all that cheap.

Sabina

Oh, life is a glorious cycle of song,

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 12:17pm

I've been through this discussion with others before and I think the difference lies in how cell phones and plans are sold in Europe vs. the US. Ds's phone is an old one of ours that I couldn't use anymore because it doesn't work in the US (double band instead of triple band). My new phone to replace that one cost about $80 and I only occasionally fill it with prepaid cards. Ds is on a plan that costs about $9 per month and lets him talk as much as he wants to with anyone who has a mobile phone with the same company. We could alternatively set him up with a pre-paid card that would probably run to about $15 per month given his calling habits but the plan seemed cheaper. All phone calls within a country cost nothing for the person receiving the call, btw.

In any case, I don't think coolness has a lot to do with it in Sweden. Pretty much everyone has a cell phone after the age of about 10, so it's just not much of a deal for anyone. If there is any coolness involved in cell phones, it's in the extra bells and whistles (none of which ds has :-)). For all of the kids I know, cell phones are basically not more than a tool for reaching parents and friends...certainly not necessary but a fairly basic part of the local culture. After all, two of the biggest players in the mobile phone business are Scandinavian :-).

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 12:22pm
If I could get my kids cell phones for under $10 per month, I might think about it.

Sabina

Oh, life is a glorious cycle of song,

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 12:34pm

i don't know what life is like in sweeden but i'll tell you what,a thing becomes *cool* when all the kids have something my child wants......and that attitude is where i pick my battles with my kid. i'm with sabina about cell phones. just toys.

that and ipods. *insert eye roll* :)

 

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 12:35pm
So the kids who *don't* get the stomach flu or strep throat thru the school year have parents that give a damn? So it's *really* not about luck of not getting ill, but about how much the parents care that will prevent illness during the school year. Interesting theory. But that's not how it works.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 12:38pm
That sounds like a great school!!!!!! LOL It was so good to see you the other day. I know things are crazy right now but we WILL get together! Karin
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 12:41pm
You called her on nothing because you completely misunderstood what she did with the birthday presents. I think you need to understand that before you get too excited that you "one upped" lois.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 12:41pm

I'm curious...Do you ever buy your children toys? Do you ever buy your children birthday or christmas presents? Do you absolutely refuse to buy anything your children want if they declare that it would be cool? Do you absolutely refuse to buy your children anything some other child has?

Sure, ipods are toys. So are legos, dolls, play kitchens...the list is endless. Some parents get their kids legos. Other parents get their kids ipods. Exactly what is the difference? A cell phone for ds is less of a toy and more of a tool, not a tool necessary for survival but a tool that makes his life a bit easier. Ds wanted it when he started going places on his own because he wanted to have a way to reach me at any time in case something unexpected happened. Do you refuse to buy anything for your kids that might make their lives easier?

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 12:49pm
wow. so you understand my point,thanks. let's not forget the b or c student whose efforts are just as great (sometimes greater) as the straight a student but somehow don't ever get the opportunity to be rewarded with honor roll. 'kay? :)

 

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