SAH doesn't support change,

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SAH doesn't support change,
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Sat, 08-26-2006 - 4:58pm

"SAH doesn't support change, it supports going backwards to the 1950's,"

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I wholeheartedly disagree. To me, SAH is a choice. How is that going back to the 1950s, when a lot of women didn't have much of a choice.

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Registered: 05-14-2006
Sat, 09-23-2006 - 1:27pm
The cheapest individual plan is about $40 but but to add a phone to an already existing plan cost about $20 (with no bells and whistles). Most companies advertise adding an additional line as costing $10 but when you add in the taxes plus the fact if you add more phones it sometimes necissitates upgrading to a higher minute plan it actuallly ends up being more like $20.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 1:43pm

"i'm with sabina about cell phones. just toys."

I think it really depends on the age (and lifestyle) of the kid. I agree that for elementary level it would be a toy. But as kids age and become more independent they may not be a necessity but the convenience does raise them above just toy level. While it is true that most of the the usuage on my 17 year old phone is between her and her friends the ability to contact each other when needed makes it more than a toy. The times when it becomes a useful item generally increases as a child ages. There is a big difference in the independence between a 10 year old, 14 year old and a driving 17 year old.

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 1:49pm

I am trying to figuure out where my parenting fits in this.

My DD3 never missed a day of school in 8th, 9th or 10th grade.

In 11th grade she got strep and missed two days.

In 12th grade she got strep and has so far missed one day.

So did I gave a damn 8th-10th grade but now I don't care?

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Registered: 05-14-2006
Sat, 09-23-2006 - 1:52pm
We did not realize how much of a useful convenience a cell phone was until we got them.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 2:13pm
Really? No candy on Halloween, Chocolate on Easter, cake on their birthdays, pie at Thanksgiving, nothing like that? Good for you, I guess. We're not that scared of seasonal sugar or fat; we rather enjoy our traditions. Each to her own, I guess. You must have a lot of spare time around the holidays, for sure!
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Registered: 06-09-2006
Sat, 09-23-2006 - 2:17pm
Not associating food and junk with holidays does not equate to not having any of that stuff. Just that the day and what it symbolizes and the people that you're around are more important.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 2:18pm
OK. the way that you dscribe your children's school experience sounds like it's really grim for them. If my kids were in a situation where they truly hadn't found anything at school to challenge them and had to be kept busy with tasks they'd already mastered that had become mundane and boring and the only way I could get them to do them was to offer them some kind of a reward, I'd feel they were being ill-served. I think I'd home school them before subjecting them to what you are describing. At the very least, I would offer some kind of enrichment activity so that they were intellectually challenged over the course of a week.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 2:24pm
Sure, a kid is going to be bored at school occasionally, and they need to learn to deal with boredom from time to time. But if a kid is mostly bored, or constantly bored, something's wrong and a change needs to be made. Maybe it's a simple matter of offering a few enrichment activities. My older son is a fairly good writer, and when he was in elementary school and the class had to write paragraphs about some topic every Monday, my son's teacher challenged him and a few others to do things like "include sentences with three kinds of end punctuation (period, question mark, exclamation point) or "go to the thesaurus and find three synonyms for this advective and use them in the paragraph," stuff like that. One memorable time in fourth grade he had to find jokes in a joke book that included each of his spelling words and then copy down or paraphrase the jokes in his "spelling sentences." Stuff like that made learning fun for him, not getting a prize for doing boring stuff.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 2:27pm
I imagine it would be difficult to tell a 9 year old boy that he has to do more work than his peers without something to show for it if he's been used to being rewarded all along. At what point do you intend to introduce the concept of a good result being its own reward?
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 2:28pm

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And I'm not that scared that an occassional trinket will cause my child permanent damage in terms of not holding down a job or having major credit card debt. I rather enjoy the "tradition" of small rewards along the way. And NOW it's to each their own? interesting.




Edited 9/23/2006 2:31 pm ET by jabbymom

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