SAH doesn't support change,

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SAH doesn't support change,
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Sat, 08-26-2006 - 4:58pm

"SAH doesn't support change, it supports going backwards to the 1950's,"

Statement in a post below.

I wholeheartedly disagree. To me, SAH is a choice. How is that going back to the 1950s, when a lot of women didn't have much of a choice.

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 3:05pm
Ummm...that was me that said that, and I will say I'm talking about the holidays that are not ABOUT junk food but still have them in spades. Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, etc. And I hope my kids know t heir birthday is about more than cake.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 3:09pm
Cookies and baked goods are not the reward to make the holiday bearable. They are part of the holiday celebration at my house. They are in no way analogous to trinket rewards in school. And when I read lmnop's posts, or whatever her name is, it makes it sound like in her schools, the kids are bored out of their minds and will only do the work if they get recognition and rewards. That's who I was talking to there.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 3:14pm
Do you think that "associating" a holiday with a certain food means that kids think that the holiday is all about, or only about the food? Because if so, we're working with different definitions of "associate." Perhaps you meant something like "equate." My kids do associate certain foods with certain holidays, but they do not equate those holidays to that food. Of course they understand that their birthday is about more than the cake, or Easter is more than chocolate. You said that you didn't want your kids making the association. I want to know how they can help making the association, since they ARE associated. I am guessing now that you meant equating, in which case we are in agreement.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 3:37pm
Oh, sure, I can understand how a toy can get stuck in a grate but the cheap plastic toys that we were posting about would be able to fit through the grates that I am thinking of.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 3:38pm
Don't you teach college?
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 3:40pm

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And the extras are a small part of the school experience at our school (and many others)

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 3:42pm

"Are you telling me you have some way of ensuring that they don't associate candy with Trick-or-Treating, or a cake with a birthday party? Because to most kids, they are linked. Definitely."

Maybe to children where junk food is a priority, but not mine. The costumes and having parties with their friends are more important. They eat a few pieces of candy, but the rest goes in the garbage. Actually, they associate their birthdays with being able to go into the city to a store of their choice to buy a birthday present. My DD's last birthday was celebrated with one of those Carvel 4-6 serving cakes. Cake and candy are not linked to holidays for us.

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 3:44pm
I'm saying that it is quite possible for the kids to enjoy those foods on those holidays without losing sight of what the holiday itself is about, and that with or without those foods, the meaning behind the holiday is still the most important part. IMO it is the same way with the extras at school. They can receive those extras in moderation without losing sight of the more important goal....education.
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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 3:46pm

"They can receive those extras in moderation without losing sight of the more important goal....education."

ITA.

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Sat, 09-23-2006 - 3:46pm
Yes, I do.

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