SAH doesn't support change,
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SAH doesn't support change,
| Sat, 08-26-2006 - 4:58pm |
"SAH doesn't support change, it supports going backwards to the 1950's,"
Statement in a post below.
I wholeheartedly disagree. To me, SAH is a choice. How is that going back to the 1950s, when a lot of women didn't have much of a choice.

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then you and i disagree between needs and wants. even my 2nd grader who just finished studying simple economics understands the difference between a *need* and *want* - a car,phone,clothes and a home are examples of needs to her and her class. and a want means,while they are nice to have and make our lives easier,are not necessary to live. i.e. personal cells or other frills just because everyone else has one.
and excuse me laura,but how are you translating what i pick and chose as allowable here to mean deliberately deprive. my kids are quite happy with the whats they have. there's better things than just *cool* you know. :)
Because there's no logical reason to suppose people might associate food with a holiday like THANKSGIVING.
Uh. yeah.
Maybe I just anticipate things more. But, do you understand that the cheap plastic toy would not just sit on the grate and look pretty, it would fall through? So, in my mind the toy was not sitting there waiting form someone to pick it up, it had already fallen through into the sewer.
Do you enjoy telling people how to think *just* like you?
You are right, we do disagree. A car and phone are wants, not needs. Even my 1st grader gets that difference. A cell phone is also a want or a nice-to-have, I've never claimed it was a necessity. It is a tool that allows my son to feel more comfortable during the hours he is on his own. He has the ability to reach us at any time, wherever he happens to be. Peace of mind is certainly worth the pittance we pay for him having a cell phone, and I wouldn't dream of refusing him that peace of mind just because others might see a cell phone as "cool".
"and excuse me laura,but how are you translating what i pick and chose as allowable here to mean deliberately deprive. my kids are quite happy with the whats they have. there's better things than just *cool* you know. :)"
I'm sure you are very generous with regard to what you provide your children. But honestly, I have the impression that you are so obsessed with avoiding giving your children anything "cool" that you would deliberately choose not to provide your children with something that might be useful if that something also happened to fall into the "cool" category at school. I'm not really bothered by what's cool or not, we provide our children with things that are interesting or useful for them, without regard to what other people think or how other people have categorized those things.
"but you certainly can't rule out that some of them are doing it for money."
I have yet to meet someone on my job that does it just for the money! How you can not
rule out that they do it just for the money?
obsessed? are you judging the kind of mom i am to my kids,laura? it's this wonder why i even bother responding to some of your remarks..my kids aren't caught up in the *cool* garb at school but as an adult looking in,i do see it. if the kid isn't making it clear to my kid what it is she has,the mom is to me. silly,really.
>>without regard to what other people think or how other people have categorized those things. <<
oh really....i thought you initially told me that your 3rd grader had something all kids had. no? are you telling me you would have still gotten your child a cell even if the other kids didn't have one? the difference between you and i is that my kids are content not having what all others must have.
Edited 9/24/2006 2:08 pm ET by egd3blessed
"obsessed? are you judging the kind of mom i am to my kids,laura?"
Not at all, I'm simply explaining that your posts give the impression that you pay very close attention to what is cool or not in your school so that you can avoid giving your children anything cool. That says absolutely nothing at all about what kind of mom you are, it just says that you seem to be very concerned about making sure that your kids don't get anything cool.
"my kids aren't caught up in the *cool* garb at school but as an adult looking in,i do see it. if the kid isn't making it clear to my kid what it is she has,the mom is to me. silly,really."
I'm actually quite shocked by this. Parents make clear to you what clothing is cool? I've never had any parent comment about what constitutes cool clothing. The subject of cool or uncool clothing hasn't even really come up among the kids at school either so far. I thought that was more a pre-teen or teen thing.
"i thought you initially told me that your 3rd grader had something all kids had. no? are you telling me you would have still gotten your child a cell even if the other kids didn't have one? the difference between you and i is that my kids are content not having what all others must have. "
Actually he's a 5th grader. All of the kids in his class have cell phones for the same reason he does: they are on their own for an extended amount of time every day and usually get themselves home by public transportation. All of the kids in his class also have backpacks, bus cards, extra rain gear...quite a lot of things, in fact, that are useful tools. Again, I really don't understand why it's such a big deal that my child has what all of the others have.
As a matter of fact, yes we would have giving him a cell phone once he started coming home alone regardless of whether other kids had one or not. A cell phone is neither expensive nor a particularly big deal. It's useful. Cell phones, in and of themselves, aren't cool just useful. Of course, there might be a particular type of cell phone that all the kids think is "cool", but if there is I have no clue what that might be. Ds doesn't either, he has just has a basic variety with no bells and whistles - probably the height of "uncool" :-). Doesn't seem to bother him a bit since he's just happy to have a way to reach us when he isn't home.
"the difference between you and i is that my kids are content not having what all others must have. "
Why do you assume that my kids 1) have everything all the others must have, and 2) would be unhappy if they didn't get everything everyone else has? Neither of my kids is particularly interested in what exactly is cool or what is a "must have".
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