SAH doesn't support change,

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SAH doesn't support change,
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Sat, 08-26-2006 - 4:58pm

"SAH doesn't support change, it supports going backwards to the 1950's,"

Statement in a post below.

I wholeheartedly disagree. To me, SAH is a choice. How is that going back to the 1950s, when a lot of women didn't have much of a choice.

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Mon, 09-25-2006 - 4:49pm

Even with the winkie icon, that comment seems to be a bit out of place.

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 06-27-1998
Mon, 09-25-2006 - 4:55pm

<<Because as I said for some kids it is an extra motivator. That doesn't mean the teacher isn't being creative, just that not all kids are the same and they all respond differently to different things. >>


Again, you aren't following the line of logic that you presented.

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 06-02-2003
Mon, 09-25-2006 - 4:59pm
I have said all along it is a fun extra and can be a small kick starting motivator (for instance, the example with my son). If it is helping others the way it helped my son, I'm all for it. And our school doesn't hand out the "big awards" so I am only talking about our school and my experience.
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Registered: 07-17-2006
Mon, 09-25-2006 - 5:32pm

Can you explain why you are so against an incentive program in a public school when you specifically removed your child(ren) from the public schools because of their (the school's) inability to meet the needs of your out-of-the-box child(ren)?

Or are you going to continue with the pretense that you cannot possibly fathom how a public school cannot simply engross every single child with its teachers?

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Mon, 09-25-2006 - 6:00pm
it would appear you dont care about the fact that it does work for my child, is she all of a sudden of not importance. if a certain program isnt good for a particular child then it is up to the parents of that child to make sure the kid doesnt participate. all this uproar over somethign that is not mandatory and does help some kids is silly. honestly, i dont think this is about the kids at all, you have some parents who dont like little trinkets, dont like fast food so they decide that the program must be bad for the kids since they dont like it. ive been dealing with these programs for years and have yet to see a child traumatized by participating or not, and there is never 100% participation, so at least some parents who dont agree with them are willing to not let their kids take part. as to homework, my kids have both gained from having homework, if other parents dont want their kids doing homework that is between them and their school, but i would fight to keep it because my main responsibility is the education of my children, and as thier parent i think it is a good thing for them.
Jennie
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Registered: 09-04-1997
Mon, 09-25-2006 - 8:34pm

When you say that the programs work for your child(ren?), do you mean that they get her (or them) to do things thay normally wouldn't want to do? Or that they read more or more widely or whatever than they would if they didn't have some external motivation to do so? If the rewards, such as pizza coupons ARE helpful in getting them to do what they don't want to do, what if they decide that they really don't want a pizza so they won't read? Will you have some back-up plan in place to motivate them, or will you decide that the reading that they dislike isn't that big a deal after all? Or do you mean that the kids read anyway, they just like getting a pizza for doing so? If so, how is that program "working" for them, since they aren't doing anything they would not already do? To me, handing out rewards for doing something like reading books sends the message that the task is so unpleasant that no one would want to do it without some kind of reward.

I know that external motivators can be effective in certain cases. I would much rather see them used on a case by case basis at the proper time, if needed and appropriate, rather than as a blanket program for the entire school or class.

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Registered: 06-09-2006
Mon, 09-25-2006 - 9:14pm
But, you made it personal.
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Registered: 06-09-2006
Mon, 09-25-2006 - 9:17pm

"That you fail to see beyond that pretty much supports what I've been saying all along."

What have I failed to see? Please do enlighten me.

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Registered: 09-04-1997
Mon, 09-25-2006 - 9:23pm
Yes, I did. I made it personal when I tried to answer your question about why I didn't give up my traditions to see what happened. By answering as honestly as possible, and talking openly about something that really matters to me, I opened myself up to whatever you wanted to throw at me. My mistake. That's why I don't really want to talk with you anymore, OK?
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Registered: 06-09-2006
Mon, 09-25-2006 - 9:23pm

"You still misunderstand. I have never said you were talking specifically about *her*. I said your comments were insensitive given the context of the post to which you were responding. Not sure why that's such a struggle."

The struggle is I don't find my general comment to be insensitive. To each his own, I guess.

"But her comments were boorish and insensitive, given the information my sister had just shared."

You keep insisting my comments were boorish and insensitive. But, you know what? Your posts are the most boorish and insensitive ones I've read on her and other boards to date.

BTW, I don't see how that SIL could possibly be related to *you*, LOL.

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