SAH doesn't support change,

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SAH doesn't support change,
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Sat, 08-26-2006 - 4:58pm

"SAH doesn't support change, it supports going backwards to the 1950's,"

Statement in a post below.

I wholeheartedly disagree. To me, SAH is a choice. How is that going back to the 1950s, when a lot of women didn't have much of a choice.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Tue, 08-29-2006 - 4:47pm
That's because you live in Cleveland instead of a more progressive town where dual WOHPs are common.

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Registered: 06-30-2006
Tue, 08-29-2006 - 4:52pm
I'm sure it's just me, but I can't really think about "firsts" without getting a slightly nauseated feeling in my stomach, sort of like the kind I get when I receive one of those Christmas cards with the family's name pre-printed on it with no signature whatsoever.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Tue, 08-29-2006 - 4:54pm

"There are jobs out there, and work experience isn't necessary for every job. "

True, but it really helps.

"Take waitressing at a nice restaurant"

Wrong, most "nice" restaurants require previous experience at not so nice restaurants (eg Applebees, Fridays, Ruby Tuesdays...- even those will pick an expereince waiter over an inexpereinced one.)

$1300 a month is poverty level in the US for a family of two. And well below what the poverty level should be if any President had the balls to change the formula. $10 per hours jobs are not difficult to find in my area, but then an efficency apartment will run you $1300 per month if you are lucky. $10 per hour jobs in aras of the country where living on $1300 a month is possible are harder to find - especially without experience.

"I think I could make $1300 do for me and my son for 3 years until he went to school, and then get a full-time job working while he was in school. "

What job is "Fulltime" that matches school hours? After halfday Mondays, teacher workdays, student holidays, Thanksgiving, Winter, Spring and Summer breaks plus getting out at 3:15- school covers about 50% of the hours required for a fulltime job (assumes a shortish commute and regular 40 hour workweek).

"And that $1300 wouldn't include child support and possible alimony that I would inevitably receive if I had custody of my child."

Alimony if awarded at all is usually very short lived (a year or two) and isn't dependent upon custody of the children.

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Registered: 03-12-2005
Tue, 08-29-2006 - 5:10pm

I get the impression you think you're an expert on breastfeeding and pumping.

If that was my argument, I'd say so directly. My argument is rather straightforward, some women who have plenty of milk to feed their babies but are unable to pump.

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Registered: 06-30-2004
Tue, 08-29-2006 - 5:35pm
I was going to reply to specific points here, but why even bother....your view of SAHMs is sooooooo wrong, it is pretty useless at this point...sigh...
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Registered: 06-30-2004
Tue, 08-29-2006 - 5:37pm
And I can't think of a single thing that WOHM's should get any special recognition for either. Their employers and their families are all that should, and really do, care what they do.
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Registered: 06-30-2004
Tue, 08-29-2006 - 5:45pm
All the while perpetuating the myth that SAHMs are a lower class of women. Which in the long run does more to harm women than your challenging of another myth helps them. If my daughters choose to SAH, I want to be free of the insulting attitude that you so readily display. You are working toward a future where it would be impossible for MY daughters to feel that ANY choice they make is a valid choice. The attitude you have goes directly against what feminists fought for in the first place - only instead of men thinking of women as second class, your ideal would lead to WOHM's thinking SAHM's are second class. That is not exactly contributing anything positive.
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Registered: 01-06-2006
Tue, 08-29-2006 - 6:14pm
Fortunately, for me, my husband cooks. :o) The only thing I seem to get stuck with is the laundry and I'm thinking that maybe my girls are old enough to start doing that. I'm going for the woman of leisure thing, lol.
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Registered: 01-06-2006
Tue, 08-29-2006 - 6:18pm

I never said we weren't equal as human beings. Where are you getting that I did?

I said I have my issues with SAH. One being that too many women who really can't afford it do it because they're convinced they should. Another being that it hurts womens earning ability possibly for life. Some people pay a heavy price to SAH and for what? Their kids don't turn out different.

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Registered: 01-06-2006
Tue, 08-29-2006 - 6:19pm
The reason people generalize is that women keep living up to the generalization. If women stopped doing the thing that is generalized about, they'd stop generalizing about it.

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