SAH doesn't support change,

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SAH doesn't support change,
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Sat, 08-26-2006 - 4:58pm

"SAH doesn't support change, it supports going backwards to the 1950's,"

Statement in a post below.

I wholeheartedly disagree. To me, SAH is a choice. How is that going back to the 1950s, when a lot of women didn't have much of a choice.

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Registered: 07-17-2006
Mon, 09-04-2006 - 8:17pm
Totally agree with you. (Yikes!) To this day I have no idea why employers want that baccalaureate degree, but they do and statistically it is likely to double one's salary potential. I was like a kid in a candy store in college, loved it, read a lot, wrote a lot, immersed myself in a lot of great stuff that I barely use now (and a lot that I didn't use in law school) and never had a better social calendar! It put off real life for 4 more years.
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Registered: 03-31-2003
Mon, 09-04-2006 - 8:18pm

"Most"? Your link says 39% do. The other 72% take 4-6 years. The average is the same as I cited - 55 months.

"When considering the total time that elapsed between completing high school and finishing the bachelor’s degree, one-third (33 percent) of first-time bachelor’s degree recipients in 1999-2000 completed a bachelor’s degree within 4 years of their high school graduation.3 Another 23 percent took 4-5 years, 11 percent took 5-6 years, and 15 percent took 6-10 years to do so. About one-fifth (19 percent) took even longer after high school to finish college.

Taking into account the delayed entry of many students and examining only the time between postsecondary entry and bachelor’s degree completion, ***about two-fifths (39 percent) of 1999-2000 first-time bachelor’s degree recipients took 4 years or less to complete a bachelor’s degree, and 72 per-cent finished in 6 years or less*** (figure C).4 Fourteen percent took more than 10 years to do so. However, compared with 1992-93 bachelor’s degree completers, the 1999-2000 cohort was more likely to complete the degree in 4 years or less (39 vs. 35 percent) and less likely to take 4-5 years between postsecondary entry and graduation (24 vs. 28 percent).

A final component of the analysis was restricted to first-time bachelor’s degree recipients who had not interrupted their postsecondary enrollment longer than 6 months. The average time between postsecondary entry and bachelor’s degree completion for these graduates was 4 years and 7 months (55 months),5 and it was longer for graduates of public institutions (57 months) than for graduates of private not-for-profit institutions (51 months).

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Registered: 03-31-2003
Mon, 09-04-2006 - 8:23pm

So where, in your mind, do LVNs, police officers, firefighters, EMTs, medical assistants, dental assistants, paralegals, etc etc etc etc etc fit in? No college? College degree?

Clearly, those professions require training and certifications, but not bachelor's degrees (which is what your numbers addressed). The only way to include those educational attainments is to include the "some college" category.

Your numbers were also applicable to the population as a whole, and not to the demographic of the poster involved in the discussion. Graduation rates are higher for each generation.

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Mon, 09-04-2006 - 8:26pm
Nope, I'm not.
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Mon, 09-04-2006 - 8:27pm
And at the large state school I went to, it was very common to take more than 4. Music majors (I started as a music major, but switched) were expected to be there 5 years - finishing in less was unusual.
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Mon, 09-04-2006 - 8:30pm
I have some friends that did this, too. Life threw them a curve and they had to leave the state they were living in and both re-train for new careers. They took turns going to school FT and working FT until they finished their bachelor's degrees. My friend went on and finished her PhD in the same program I was in. It was a long haul, but eventually she started earning a better living - her kids are teens now and it is bittersweet to finally have a better standard of living but the kids are almost grown.
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Registered: 08-16-2004
Mon, 09-04-2006 - 8:33pm
Simply because my practical knowledge is different from yours doesn't mean it's lacking. You haven't lived through the same experiences as me, in the same places as me, etc. You have no idea what I can and cannot do. I don't care if something is practical to you. It's practical to me because of my experience and my knowledge of my own capabilities. I know very few people who work more than 40 hours a week running their own small businesses, and I have quite a few friends and family members that do that.
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Mon, 09-04-2006 - 8:35pm
Police officers in this neck of the woods need to have a college degree.
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Mon, 09-04-2006 - 8:35pm

'So this hasn't happened yet? You are just guessing aloud with the 3 year time-line?'

No, it hasn't, but it will considering he is right on track to finish up before he gets out.

'That will depend on the school, however, and not all universities will recognize those hours; a problem he will have to address if he transfers to a larger state school in the future. '

Well, my husband is completing the same program that many of his colleages have completed, and none of them have had any problems with their credit hours not being recognized. Moreover, none of them have had any problems finding well-paying jobs after completeing their 4 year tours.

Thanks for your concern, but we're fine. ;)

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Registered: 03-31-2003
Mon, 09-04-2006 - 8:39pm

"Simply because my practical knowledge is different from yours doesn't mean it's lacking."

In the area of education and earning a living your practical knowledge is certainly *lacking* and not just "different".

"You haven't lived through the same experiences as me"

And you have not lived through the same experiences as I have (college, career, working etc) yet you claim to know so much about it.

"I know very few people who work more than 40 hours a week running their own small businesses..."

This statement is so laughable I won't even try to refute it. Anyone that has any real, practical knowledge of running their own small business understands how ridiculous it is to assume that a 40 hour work-week is normal or common, much less assumed.

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