Is the SAHM the new status symbol?

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Is the SAHM the new status symbol?
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Tue, 09-23-2003 - 10:36pm
In the 70's and 80's women fought to get into the workforce (the whole Ms. magazine generation)...and then the tide turned in the late 1990's when more women started to stay home by choice. Now, it seems like being a SAHM is a status symbol....and superior to being a working mom.

Kat

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Sat, 10-04-2003 - 1:03am
OOh, and another thing. I believe at one point I have gotten into it with both P&J and slim for different reasons.

Why would I have a debate with myself?

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Sat, 10-04-2003 - 4:28am
Not really. P&J predates Islim by a year and possibly more--hardly "showing up at the same time". Iaudry is a long time poster predating both of them who simply changed her username for reasons I've long since forgotten. The three of them may agree on the majority of issues, but all of them have debated--hotly--from opposites sides of several issues.

That's the problem with newcomers trying to be insightful about posting dynamics that have existed for years; they don't have the background history necessary to make an intelligent contribution to the discussion, Ma...er, Doogey.

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Sat, 10-04-2003 - 7:14am

*I* have a distaste for waitressing, it's a sucky job.

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Sat, 10-04-2003 - 7:17am
Of course I can see some of you see that. I believe that way also. I could care less whether a man or woman works as long as they are living their desired life. As I stated over many times. This is how dh's family feels about it. As I stated over many times. I've never cared enough to ask the *whys* about it. That is *why* I can't explain it. I'have never cared enough to ask his father or grandfather or anybody else. Not important to me. Never gave it a thought. I just know it is frowned up on for men to live a life of leisure. I've heard comments that men should be working not spending their days on the greens. They have a deep value for hard work for both men and women. They just don't expect women to do it unless they want but men are expected. I'm sure you are thinking it is an old fashion concept. It is.

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Edited 10/4/2003 7:24:03 AM ET by muffinsandtoast

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Sat, 10-04-2003 - 7:29am
What I find hilarious is that Max was famous for not giving out personal information. She never had a Web site or profile. We never knew her real name. She used to say one could never be too careful on the internet. And yet, we've had two people post here who have stated they have *met* Max IRL AND that Max goes around on other boards telling people she is the Max who used to post here.

I'm a writer but even I couldn't come up with this story line. Whoever the board poltergeist is, he/she has missed his/her true calling. Bwhahahahahahahahaha

outside_the_box_mom

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Sat, 10-04-2003 - 8:55am
I wish the tip system didn't exist. It's hateful to make this one segment of the workforce have their wages dependent on a customer's whim. And to make matters worse, they get taxed as though the tips were a set amount, rather than at customer's whim. We don't pay for anything else that way, and nobody else in the workforce gets taxed that way. Everywhere else, people get taxed on the wages they actually made, not the wages they theoretically made.
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Sat, 10-04-2003 - 9:19am
I just started lurking around this thread, but you took the words right out of my mouth. I clearly remember a poster who wanted to meet Max (a very nice lady whose sister lived in the Nashville area) and Max refused. Even when asked, she would always refuse. So why, then, are these newcomers able to meet Max when longtimers couldn't? I suppose Doogey could tell us what Max looked like - which would be interesting since Max herself had trouble keeping her stories straight about that!

I also remember that Max hired a housekeeper just before she left the board. She supposedly moved into a larger home and needed the help. That one sorta blew her cover cause she had always sworn she'd never have outside help. The thing was her story was getting harder and harder to maintain. I always suspected that's part of the reason she left.

I think the personal assistant/CPA/floral arranger was another attempt to create a Max-like personality. But it was more than the creative writer could handle at the time.

Sometimes it's annoying, sometimes it's funny but it's always amusing!

Note as I waive my long-time poster status badge: I'm not here too often but have been around a long time, mostly on the Parentsplace board. :)

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Sat, 10-04-2003 - 9:40am
Actually, i did run across max on another ivillage website -- her posting style is so easy for me to see. She absolutely did not identify herself as such. I found out because i e-mailed her directly (to her new screen name) and we "chatted" a bit. BTW, her e-mails sound just like her posts.

she was due to have her new baby june or early july.

eileen

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Registered: 08-01-2003
Sat, 10-04-2003 - 9:48am
I can understand why you feel that way since normally when someone is accusing soemone for soemthing so silly, they are the Guilty party and just looking for trouble. In this instance, i do not think the ladies you note are NOT the same, in fact i know p&J mom is not she holds a mature place on this board she never get's herself involved in this childish petty play and from what i have witnessed respects all poster even if she emensly disagree's she does not get involved with the banter, I admire that A lot.


I think SOME not all of the regualrs here just have a lynch mob mentality b/c of some of the nssty's that have been around these parts and a just assume that if two sahm's agree and post common thought they are one in the same...it is kinda how this board seems to work...just ask MAX! Most of it comes from militant WOHM's. I know of a regular old time poster here who does have more that one screen name she uses here and has been banned, (no clw it is not you). the finger pointing going on here or innuendo as someone pointed out...It really is irrevelvant and does not add to the debate but proves some weakness in charachter and very bitter and miserable livleyhood imo...please remember I say some regualars as in one or two not all since this board is full of regualrs old and new. Most of the ladies here are knd hearted gentle women who are very passionate about their work statis and their families. Just ask Max...she can tell you.

Stick around it really all works out in the end... I still have a poster following me around claiming Iam not a Norweigan from norway and that I dont struggle in the written word of English...I just use it to win some point...LMAO~ It is histaricle actually and I need to stop playing into her b/c i believe she means well in the end just has seem deep issues.

And your welcome and congrats on that new baby...Im also pregnant with child #5




Edited 10/4/2003 3:07:21 PM ET by silverunity

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Sat, 10-04-2003 - 9:49am
I am very pleased to hear she is/was pregnant. I know how much she wanted a second child.

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