Sarah Palin - To Start a New Thread

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Sarah Palin - To Start a New Thread
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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 12:26pm

Thought I would throw some new meat out there since there's a limit to dishwasher and book list and split personality former-banned member stuff I can read...

So how does Sarah Palin's situation figure into your perspective on the SAH/WOH debate?

I believe that WOH definitely works for my family, and for the most part, tend to favor it in general as a path that is more likely to secure financial stability for families. I'm just stating that as a glossing over of my basic place in the 'debate' to set the stage for my response.

I find Palin interesting. As a fairly liberal feminist, I applaud any woman who reaches that level of Government, particularly in, shall we say, a more 'rugged' state. At the same time, as a fairly liberal feminist, most of her social views tend to scare the bejeezes out of me. But that has to do with the political.

Politics aside, if you merely treated her as a case study, in our own little imaginary sociology class, how does her situation affect/impact you or cause you to react? She is a mom of 5, with a son shipping out to Iraq, a pregnant teen aged daughter, 2 other daughters that are younger, and an infant special needs son.

I do not think any of those things should or should not impact her decision to WOH, in general. However, I *do* have a somewhat negative reaction to the idea of pursuing the VP slot. In her current role, in theory she is also in a high stress job that demands long hours. But I get the impression that her husband is in the more day-to-day family management role. One could posit that living in a small town with lots of family allows her the benefit of a wider net of support.

To me it is one thing to work and find the best thing to work for your family. But I really question the decision to expose my family to the degree of tumult, scrutiny, and change that this degree of position entails. They will have to move to a completely foreign environment. They have no insight as of yet to the degree of care and attention their son may require - it could vary greatly. I just cannot reconcile in my mind a parent making that kind of choice, particularly when she is relatively young and probably has a rising star that promises years of opportunity to come.

I question myself on whether a double standard is being applied - would I have the same reaction given all this news if her husband was the nominee? Hmm - probably not - and that's hard for me to admit. But I also believe that I *should( have the same reaction even if the father is the one making the choices versus the mother, and making things 'equitable' doesn't mean that I should expect less from women - I should start expecting MORE from men.

I don't think any of this has a direct impact on her ability or readiness to govern (although I have tons of opinions on that unrelated to the SAH/WOH thing). But it does give an insight into her judgment, priorities and choices - and I really feel like these apparent choices are ones I just can't support.

I am interested in other opinions and views.



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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 12:34pm

I think Sarah Palin is a woman I would like to have for a friend. She seems interesting and even fun. But I disagree with about 98% of her views on everything, so I am not voting for her or McCain. The idea of her as my president scares me.

As far as the kids are concerned, hey, I worked for Bobby Kennedy in 1968. He and Ethel had ten kids and one on the way. Five kids and a house husband doesn't bother me at all. It might even have been fun to have a First Dude.

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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 12:56pm

>>> As far as the kids are concerned, hey, I worked for Bobby Kennedy in 1968. He and Ethel had ten kids and one on the way.

I hear you. I'm struggling myself with an apparent double standard that I am feeling that surprises me about myself.

Now, would Bobby and Ethel *today* feel differently to you (given our culture's level of expectation regarding parental involvement, etc.)? If Ethel wasn't SAH (with, also, I assume tons of Kennedy money for staff and support and such), would that change your attitude? If they had several child-related 'crises' going on at the time of an election (today, not in 68), would that affect you?

I'm learning more about myself and my views through examining this. I find that, while my DH and I split things quite equitably, and we both share the roles of income earning, house care, child care, etc., I still know that I, as the mother, tend to assess, contemplate, and make more decisions regarding the emotional growth and direction of my children. If 'sacrifices' are to be made, I am the one more likely to recognize that first and ready to step up to do that. Now, I am not 'sacrificing' the opportunity to be VPOTUS - I'm sacrificing things like choice assignments that involved increased travel, etc. But I do think that - either driven by cultural norms or chemical gender-based differences (or both), mothers are expected to and ARE more likely to gauge their family choices in the context of how it affects all their children and spouse and themselves. I find that I expect this - hell, even embrace it as a *good* thing about female mentality and decision-making - and the fact that Palin has a lot of children isn't what phases me - it is that she has a lot of children, all of whom are currently dealing with extremely stressful, fearful, and challenging issues *regardless* of what mom and dad do for a living, and she is *choosing* to amplify that stress for all of them by, oh, say, 10,000%? And I just can't see doing that.



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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 3:23pm
Nodding at your entire first paragraph.
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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 3:58pm

I'm a sahm who will return to the work force on at least a part-time basis once my children are in school. I too have thought about the Palin VP pick in terms of this debate. While I don't understand at all how men and women

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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 4:04pm

I feel for Sarah Palin's family and especially for her daughter.

 

Yes. We. Did.

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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 4:40pm

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Um, well, yes.

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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 5:03pm

"I would question a male politician who chose to drag his pregnant, 17 year old daughter into the spotlight, and then further would choose to be away from her for extended periods of time at a time in her life when she needed him."

I'm wondering if you felt the same about John Edwards bid for the Presidential nomination?

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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 5:23pm

Honestly, yes, I did.

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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 5:23pm

Not travs, but I'll answer ... :)


I would feel that way about Edwards to an extent, but not as great a one. Simply because the "other person" here, the one being dragged into the spotlight and possibly not having needs met is an adult that's capable of going into that decision willingly with full knowledge of the consequences of that decision.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Wed, 09-03-2008 - 5:26pm
I agree with this.

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