Sheryl Sandberg Wants Us to "Lean In"

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Sheryl Sandberg Wants Us to "Lean In"
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Mon, 03-11-2013 - 3:57pm

There is a lot in the news regarding Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg's new book, "Lean In", in which she is trying to empower women to be more aggressive in the workplace.   It's interesting to read the different viewpoints on the debate, ranging from ABC News to CNN and the New York Times.  

From an iVillage article:

But time is exactly what's holding many women back. The time investment required for women to move ahead in their jobs at all levels -- not just the C-suite spots -- is a deal breaker for many women who aren't willing to sacrifice those hours with their family. All of Sandberg's brilliant plans for redefining how working women are viewed and how they network hinge on the point that women need to want these jobs. And if the current formula of working longer and harder for career success doesn't change, many women won't. 

http://www.ivillage.com/sheryl-sandberg-will-women-want-lean/6-a-526612

The articles discuss various issues that have been debated here before, such as if women can truly have it all and why women aren't as aggressive as their male counterparts to get what they deserve in the workplace.  Detractors feel that with her work history, education and success, she's unable to understand the average working woman, she's not up against the same obstacles.  

What do you think needs to change in the work place in order for women to succeed, and maybe find an easier balance between their work and home lives?  Do you think that encouraging more women to be aggressive about moving up the corporate ladder is realistic?  

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Mon, 03-11-2013 - 10:09pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
You've also said you don't understand why a mom AH would hire a house lady/nanny. Super moms delegate.

Blasphemy!  Just joking.  I'd be lost without hired help. 

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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Do we tell men they can't have it all? Men move up the ranks and nobody blinks an eye, SAHWs are just a part of the package, But heaven forbid we take SAHDs to task when the same is mentioned about women, Two income families will always be compared to homes that have a SAHP, And while that's not what you're saying it is important to realze that moms who work and want families can't have it all b/c men that work don't have it all, Somebody is there to pick up the slack you can't. There is plenty of opportunity for women to move up the ranks, Some women just don't see it, Every single principal at my childrens' school is female except the middle school and mal/efemale college professors and deans alike are in positions they want to be in. Rumor has it that PhDs fight fire with eachother more than anybody b/c they place too much emphisis on the the "pile high explicitives" behind their names, Lol.</p>

As a manager in a forture 100 company, I call bs on the statement: There is plenty of opportunity for women to move up the ranks.

I am in a class for manager development education this week in a company with a woman CEO (50 men 5 women in the class). The class is so obviously written for and by men that it is ridiculous. The male instructor is very good, and does recognize some of the bias, so maybe it will change.

Are your children in hs? Is the principal a woman? In elementary schools, 85% of the teachers are women and only 44% of the administrators are women. 

There is still a huge gender gap in the worplace and though is moving in the right direction, it is a disservice to our sons and daughters pretent that is doesn't exist. My company values diversity to incent innovation, but it just doesn't know how to achieve it because men are still calling 80% of the shots.

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Tue, 03-12-2013 - 5:47am

I'll take it you don't know what I'm talking about, Sorry I even brought it up. Carry on.

 

 

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thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>Sorry for the misspelling, you've seriously not heard that expression about PhDs? Maybe IT'S a geographic thing, Lol. My professor loves to talk about his ranking, The 8 years it took to get his "PhD", That his biases are worth their weight in gold, You don't ask if he likes or not the department dean whose PhD is just as powerful as yours until someone tells you, Not all PhDs have such inflated egos but many do.</blockquote></p><p>Jams, I totally hear that!  Lots of professors teaching my courses were so full of themselves.  I especially remember the class getting an earful from a law prof who boasted about his credentials (which were many).  He was our prof. and also a type of judge, very prestigious.  I remember him getting a laugh from the class (very funny guy) which he quickly followed up with this egomaniacal gem: <em>"That's why they need an Evidence man on the Supreme Ct.</em>"  (Meaning him!)  Very full of himself, lots of stories too.  </p>

Wait... You mean there are law professors like this too?  Lol.   

 

 

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Tue, 03-12-2013 - 6:06am

What does writing for a man look like?

Edited. 

 

 

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thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>You've also said you don't understand why a mom AH would hire a house lady/nanny. Super moms delegate.</blockquote></p><p>Blasphemy!  Just joking.  I'd be lost without hired help.  </p>

Good for you. 

 

 

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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Do we tell men they can't have it all? Men move up the ranks and nobody blinks an eye, SAHWs are just a part of the package, But heaven forbid we take SAHDs to task when the same is mentioned about women, Two income families will always be compared to homes that have a SAHP, And while that's not what you're saying it is important to realze that moms who work and want families can't have it all b/c men that work don't have it all, Somebody is there to pick up the slack you can't. There is plenty of opportunity for women to move up the ranks, Some women just don't see it, Every single principal at my childrens' school is female except the middle school and mal/efemale college professors and deans alike are in positions they want to be in. Rumor has it that PhDs fight fire with eachother more than anybody b/c they place too much emphisis on the the "pile high explicitives" behind their names, Lol.</p>

Oh, are we villifying the educated today?  Isn't that going to be a little awkward, what with your own pursuit of higher education?  Or is higher education okay for you, but not for anyone who either got there first or has more degrees than you have or aspire to?

Could you possibly publish a schedule so I can be better prepared for whichever trait of Bord's you decide to villify next week and in April?

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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>What does writing for a man look like?</p><p>Edited. </p>

The stereotypical crap that women react emotionally and men react to situations with logic.

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chestnuthooligan wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;What does writing for a man look like?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Edited. &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>The stereotypical crap that women react emotionally and men react to situations with logic. </p>

Nonsense.  You brought it up, What does say about women who AREN'T getting ahead?  Listen to female leaders, They aren't so caught up in that. 

 

 

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Tue, 03-12-2013 - 7:27am
I thought the whole point of SAHM was to keep your kids away from Evil Substitute Caregivers. Now SuperMom SAHMS need Nannys. Sheesh. Makes me glad my kids are nearly grown. The rules are getting way too hard to keep up with.

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