Sheryl Sandberg Wants Us to "Lean In"

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Sheryl Sandberg Wants Us to "Lean In"
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Mon, 03-11-2013 - 3:57pm

There is a lot in the news regarding Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg's new book, "Lean In", in which she is trying to empower women to be more aggressive in the workplace.   It's interesting to read the different viewpoints on the debate, ranging from ABC News to CNN and the New York Times.  

From an iVillage article:

But time is exactly what's holding many women back. The time investment required for women to move ahead in their jobs at all levels -- not just the C-suite spots -- is a deal breaker for many women who aren't willing to sacrifice those hours with their family. All of Sandberg's brilliant plans for redefining how working women are viewed and how they network hinge on the point that women need to want these jobs. And if the current formula of working longer and harder for career success doesn't change, many women won't. 

http://www.ivillage.com/sheryl-sandberg-will-women-want-lean/6-a-526612

The articles discuss various issues that have been debated here before, such as if women can truly have it all and why women aren't as aggressive as their male counterparts to get what they deserve in the workplace.  Detractors feel that with her work history, education and success, she's unable to understand the average working woman, she's not up against the same obstacles.  

What do you think needs to change in the work place in order for women to succeed, and maybe find an easier balance between their work and home lives?  Do you think that encouraging more women to be aggressive about moving up the corporate ladder is realistic?  

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<<Me: I can't imagine how much regret is wrapped up in the day-to-day of a woman going thru IVF at 47 years-old.  That's a lot of regret.  Confirming perhaps no one can have it all.>>

I've seen and heard regret from sahms with kids in school full time or empty nest and going through trying to figure out what to do with themselves.  One can have it all, but it's about balance.

PumpkinAngel

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jamblessedthree wrote:
You've also said you don't understand why a mom AH would hire a house lady/nanny. Super moms delegate.

Why is it picking up the slack for working parents and delegating for sahms?

PumpkinAngel

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thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>You've also said you don't understand why a mom AH would hire a house lady/nanny. Super moms delegate.</blockquote></p><p>Blasphemy!  Just joking.  I'd be lost without hired help.  </p>

You hire a nanny to help?  Interesting.

PumpkinAngel

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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">thardy2001</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;jamblessedthree&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;You've also said you don't understand why a mom AH would hire a house lady/nanny. Super moms delegate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Blasphemy!  Just joking.  I'd be lost without hired help.  &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>

Good for you. </p>

But it's picking up the slack for the working folk.  Why the double standard here Jambles?

PumpkinAngel

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jamblessedthree wrote:
And the stereotypes continue, Only working moms hire out help... Lol.

Actually, I believe you thought it was someone picking up the slack when wohps hired out help and good when sahps hired out help.  Quite the double standard you have going there Jambles.

PumpkinAngel

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reginageorge2005 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>And the stereotypes continue, Only working moms hire out help... Lol.</blockquote></p><p>No stereotype from me. I just find it unnecessary.</p>

We hire out here and there, mostly major projects like replacing the roof, that type of thing.  The boys help with mowing the lawn, cleaning the pool and general yard work.  Same for inside work, we all pitch in, although I would love a house cleaner since that is my least favorite thing to do in the house.

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Wed, 03-13-2013 - 1:19pm
Oh my good God. That is about the funniest gif (or whatever they call them) that I've seen in a long time! LMAO

Shaking my head at the things grown women get their panties in a wad about.

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thardy2001]<p>Several pages in and all we're discussing is a poster's innocent and mistaken addition of a nonsense word, typed in haste, while multi-tasking perhaps.  And women wonder why they don't get ahead in the workplace.  No skin off my nose ~ I'm happily unemployed.

And yet most posters who mistype a word that makes the whole sentance incoherent, immediately clarify what word they meant to type.  Jam hasn't done that, and you haven't explained--I'm guessing you have no clue what she meant. 

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
― Markus ZusakThe Book Thief

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You missed the point entirely...<em>even when I was in graduate school and in my first years in private practice</em>, <strong>the women outnumbered the men</strong>

But being a minority isn't just about percent of population; it's about being a cultural minority. For example, according to future demographics projections, whites will become a mathmatical minority within the US. They will not achieve minority status however, because they still control the wealth and power. 

The fact that women are schooling themselves in large numbers yet remain underrepresented in leadership roles supports that idea. 

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Sat, 04-06-2013 - 4:41pm

Sandberg probably comes from a privileged background. It was probably easier for her.

Sure, everyone is told to be aggressive to get ahead. Sandberg isn't saying anything that has not been said before.

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