Should Sally Ride have revealed that she was gay?

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Should Sally Ride have revealed that she was gay?
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Thu, 07-26-2012 - 4:34pm

I was sad to learn that Sally Ride had passed away this week, she was such a role model to my generation to know that women really can a "man's job".  I really didn't react to the news that she was lesbian, until I read this opinion piece from CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/26/opinion/darrah-sally-ride-lesbian/index.html?hpt=op_t1

The piece talks about how some opinions are that she let down the LGBT community by not coming out that she was gay, which the author disagreed with.  She talks about how it was a different world 30 years ago, and it didn't surprise her that she wasn't public about that side of her life.  It makes me wonder if she would have been the first woman in space if it was known that she was gay.  She might not have had the same legacy if she was open about her sexuality.  

Do you think that women today are still hesitant to come out as gay in today's workforce?  Do you think that's it's more acceptable in some industries versus others?  

 

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Wed, 08-01-2012 - 10:43am
What "chosen lifestyle?"
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I'm glad you brought up the discrimination factor, savcal.  I've been wondering if any of their employees who are gay would have the grounds for a lawsuit.  I would think that it causes a hostile working environment for them to know that their employer is so publicly against the LGBT community.   From a business standpoint, do you think they are opening themselves up to risk? 

ETA: had to change my wording to reflect what I really meant to ask.  That's what I get for focusing more on what I'm trying to ask than what I'm typing *smacks head*  This is why I'm not good at debating and leave it to the experts!  

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CFA has done WAY more than just state their feelings. No one is refusing to eat at CFA becasue the CEO stated his feelings.

they are refusing to eat at CFA because the money they spend there is then going to support anti-gay groups; groups that often participate in severe anti-gay activities. CFA also, arguably, practices discrimination against its employees.

I do business with a lot of people and businesses that do not support gay marriage or gay rights. But they aren't using their business profits to hurt the gay community.

It's not about, imo, punishing CFA. It's about choosing where I want my money to end up.

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I do not think it matters. That may be a very simplistic view but I do feel that it is a personal issue. Chick-Fil-A is taking a nasty beating right now for stating their feelings, yet when you state your preferences, it is fine. We cannot have it both ways. People should say what they feel without retribution, including any from your employer. Sadly, who knows if it would have removed her from the position of being an astronaut had she 'come out' prior but it definitely should not have. It is irrelevant and people should not have to fear being themselves, whether others like it or not.

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I don't care if she was gay or  not.

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I didn't do a lot of background, so thank you for this. I didn't realize that she was that open in h er non-public life. Very glad to see that she was.

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Sun, 07-29-2012 - 11:17pm
I don't think Ride "hid" her sexual orientation. She lived with her partner in San Diego. They attended events together. She chose not to come out publicly, but she didn't "hide" either. She probably feared, and rightly so, that she couldnt have continued working with girls as effectively if she became vocal about gay issues. She could either be a "gay astronaut," or an activist for girls in STEM, not both, unfortunately. I think she chose the role she thought she was best suited for. And by including her partner in her obituary, she opened the way for this conversation,
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  There is no evidence that she did not talk about it.  Her friends and family knew that she was gay so it was not a secret.   She just choose to not talk about it publically. 

 In her case the public arena was her work life, there are many things that people share in their private life, with friends and acquaintances that they choose not to share in their work life. 

 

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You're right - they don't have an *obligation * to announce it. But they should have the *right* to act just like straight people. And many times, if they exercise that right, they'd be shunned, fired, ridiculed or persecuted. I think Sally probably felt that way, so she didn't act just like straight people. She hid it instead.

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Then it was YOUR response that wasn't really in line with the question. Because you said <<I think this world would be a much better place if more people, gay or straight or bi, would just keep their mouths shut about who they sleep with>>

You didn't say "people should refrain from making public stands about their sexuality" or "People should keep their sex lives out of the public arena". You said people should just keep their mouths shut. Period.

<< My friends know I'm straight--I have no obligation to stand up and say, "I'm straight and proud." >>

My point exactly. People know you're straigh - because your husband accompanies you places. Because you've talked about your husband or your wedding or activities with him, etc,etc. Gay people's acquaintances should know they are gay - because they too talk about their partners, their weddings, activiites with their partner, etc. But in Sally's case (and in the case of too many people still today) they feel they can't talk about that stuff, so therefore people don't know they are gay.

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